If the system rewards him for behaving this way, then there's no reason for him to stop. Can't blame someone for trying to make money, even if his actions aren't great for the community at large. If you don't like somebody's content or behavior, you can always flag them. But if the system rewards low-effort behavior like this, then the best thing to do would be to figure out how to change the Steem ecosystem to prevent it. (Personally, I think self-voting shouldn't be a thing for exactly this reason but if it benefits me I'll continue to do it)
Or maybe if self-votes costed much more than regular votes? Unclear what would be the best way to approach this issue.
I made this post specifically to highlight that the "system" doesn't "rewards him for behaving this way" anymore.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
I received about 30 new followers in short order so rewarded. Keep up the night hood. My comment section is one of the most entertaining and I get paid to make it that way. This is entertainment.
Better hope you don't get flagged into oblivion. . i would be careful about your actions and responses to people who have much more than you invested in the success of this platform. . .I can give you an example of a few people who were pulling the same bullshit as you and you could check how "entertaining" their accounts are now.
Yes called censorship.
Not censorship pal. . Downvotes can be used however they want. .censorship would be removing your post or comment completely so it cannot be seen or read.
Eye of the beholder. I call it censorship as my upvoting myself helped me justify having $175K in steemit. I now don't have a return on investment so I move on, hence the power down. I will find a return on investment platform.
See ya. . .you were obviously only here for a ROI. . .not to provide value. . Adios!
Did you read the post? i think it explains it pretty well
I agree
Yes it does answer the question. . . I believe this careless redistribution scheme will attract a higher percentage of people who are going to also try to game the system to get easy reward instead of contributing to Steem.
Agree 100%
Commenting with memes in hopes of earning is not valuable for the platform and careless use of VP by rewarding in this manner is not valuable, as voting for every one of your own comments is not valuable. . .
@greenman has started powering down. Dont make him quit and lose all the people he upvotes. Steem in its beta stage needs more users.
I couldn't agree more completly,
But me and myself havn't decided yet.
i'ts ok
I think self-voting your own comments should be allowed. There are times I comment on someone's post, usually something funny, because I like to make people laugh, and NONE of the comments will have any upvotes, and there is my funny comment at the bottom of a list of 20 or 30 or more comments, so then I will upvote my own comment so it rises to the top and therefore gets more exposure because its now the first comment people see and not the last. Really though, my upvote is worth 2 cents, so its not like I'm lining my pockets here upvoting my own comments.
Your comments are worth more than two cents, so for the same reason you expect the crowd to give it a fair value you should give your own comment a fair value and not upvote them for profit. for example hundreds of "Thx" to 7$
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Comments are only worth the value given to them by those who upvote them. Just as any "product" is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. My upvote is only worth 2 cents. The WHOLE point of steemit is for a community to make money off of what they post online, otherwise none of this would exist because everyone would be using facebook or twitter or some other social media site that doesn't pay. If the guy wants to upvote his own comments and the system allows it, whose to stop it? Eventually people will stop upvoting his stuff and stop commenting because they see him as being greedy, or they will keep on commenting and upvoting his stuff cus he upvotes their comments as well. I can tell you i have folllowed every person that has upvoted one of my comments in a big $ way. As the saying goes Money talks and bullshit walks.
No it's not, this is a secondary effect.
You need to start your thinking by asking yourself why would people buy steem in the first place.
To get exposure.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Buy steem? You don't have to buy anything to take part in this platform. I've been on here since June of 2017 and I haven't spent any money out of my income from my job on here. Every single promotion of this platform I have seen has always been in the form of "get paid for posting".
As a rather famous steemian says
Are you completely oblivious from where the money is coming from?
Steem doesn't have a sell price out of nowhere. Someone is buying. Why are they buying would be my question to you.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
I traded my SBD for Steem a few weeks ago because SBD was at $2 and Steem was at 52 cents and I am expecting Steem to go over $1000 someday and then I will sell all my steem and eliminate all my debt. So you could say I bought Steem. I didn't buy steem based on the content someone is putting out, I bought steem because the platform is growing rapidly and the value of the crypto is going to go thru the roof like bitcoin has.
You do not have to be an active member on steemit to trade in steem though. that was my point. you dont have to "buy" anything.
From videos ive seen there is the giant pool of SBD/SP that we all get "paid" from. If i upvote your comment, i turn the valve and 2 cents comes out of that pool and goes to you. Now based on this post, if you upvote my comment, you turn the valve and i get $4 and some change.
Is this why you're here on this thread right now?
In reality this isn't really a situation for debate. There should be zero people who would defend a person who constantly replies "Thnx" or "Thanks" or "Thank you" and upvotes those comments to $3 - $7 every time. That's fucked up and good luck getting rich on here acting like a Carp.
I'm on this thread because the title caught my attention. I'm not defending the guy at all. The simple fact is, if the system allows him to upvote his own comments then whose going to stop him? Like I stated before, the guy will eventually lose followers because they will see him as being greedy.
I am in no way a bottom feeding carp. I have put alot in to this community myself. Matter of fact one of the first things I did was to donate 50 STEEM (when it was valued at 1.60) that I had won the week before in a contest, to a woman who I have never met because she had medical bills.
My statement of following those who gave me big upvotes was to simply say I have followed those who have shown their appreciation for my thoughts by giving me a big upvote.
I don't think you're really getting it! Who cares if this guy has followers or not? Even doesn't even care! I think you're beating around the bush for some reason. He upvotes his own comment everytime $3-$7. The purpose of these upvotes is not to move to the top of the comments for visibility. It is to "Make Money". This is very harmful to the platform as it takes from the reward pool and lowers the payout for all other users.
We are! We as users are to stop the abuse on our platform. This is not a situation where you phone the police or contact your MP or whatever other type of sheeple things people do. This is our platform we as stake holders are to direct it's path.
:) This was very thoughtful and generous of you.
I'm not fooled easily ;)
by the way, thank you for the big upvote.
You can strike out your comments now so that you can upvote them for visibility and not for profit.
What do you mean strike out your comments now? I have no idea how to do that. Every post I've ever read the comments were in order of value.
When you make a comment in the bottom right corner you can select the 3 options just like when you make a post.
Power Up 100%
Default 50%/50%
Decline Payout
Select Decline Payout then upvote the shit outta your comment so it gets noticed. I will decline payout on this for an example
I see. Not sure if that will still move your comment up or not.
Why would you decline making money on something you took the time to write? That's like going to work, working for a half hour and then going and punching in. I guess if you have a salaried job you wouldn't know what that's like though.
No it's more like if you went to work and punched in with more then one time card but your only 1 person and everytime you punch in with another time card you take pay away from co workers.
I getting tired of this debate man.
I created a test comment further down the post for an example. I declined the payout and it's moving up the same as any other comment
I am just learning the ins and outs.