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RE: Flight Times Debunk the Flat Earth Hypothesis

in #flatearth7 years ago (edited)

Nope

Flights from Sydney to Santiago do not go closer than a few hundred kilometres of the antarctic ice wall. They definitely do not fly close to the southern "pole"

The flights are dooable. There is a long discussion regarding Max Igan's verified flight from Sydney to Santiago vs wind speeds close to Antarctica. There is actually a return wind that runs in the opposite direction at higher latitude. So your post is by no means a debunking of flat earth.

In fact there are so many darn proofs for flat earth, that i would like to see the Globlings give up on their NASA fanboy fantasy.

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Lolz, the Antarctica flight tours that you can take for $1,299, fly DIRECTLY over the South Pole.

Show me one image of your ice wall?

No need for ANYTHING from NASA to disprove flat earth and provide strong evidence of a globe earth. The fact that you have to bring ANOTHER conspiracy into it, one that is a complete non-sequitur, is evidence that you don't really have any evidence for flat earth. Incredulity of another model, after having ignored the evidence for it because YouTube videos say there is no evidence, well that is not how science actually works.

In science, you can't arbitrarily reduce the possibilities down to two without going through and disproving every other one that might come up. Even then, more possibilities that you might not thought of may turn up. But flat earthers have, for some reason, decided that the shape of the earth is like a game of dirty pool. If you can beat the other guy, through any means possible, then you win!

Sorry, but 'real science' as you guys like to say, does not work that way, and the flat earth 'idea' has dozens upon dozens of impossibilities that flat earthers will laugh off and say, "SHOW ME THE CURVATURE!!!", despite the fact that it's IRRELEVANT what evidence there is of someone else's model to prove or disprove your own.

Without a model to have studied to ensure it can overcome all of the impossibilities inherent in the model, it is completely irrational and unscientific to call yourself a flat earther. YOu claim that you REJECTED the sphere earth model because it's impossible, but you adopted a model that is impossible. Then these people who have declared the earth flat without the evidence necessary to make such a claim, call themselves 'flat earth scientists'. A complete and obvious bias that is apparent in every interaction with them. That is entirely irrational and unscientific.

The flat earth argument is not that they have proven the model beyond any reasonable doubt due to overwhelming evidence. The argument is that you have SOOOO much incredulity for the globe model, and that any evidence anyone presents HAS to be fabricated (including but not limited to NASA) that you win by default!

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Don't act like that and pretend that you are doing 'real science'. You're not. Following in the footsteps of Rowbotham, they are simply confirming bias. And just like Rowbotham, when you use proper technique and understand scientific principles, the flat earth model simply has no leg to stand on.

"Flights from Sydney to Santiago do not go closer than a few hundred kilometres of the antarctic ice wall. They definitely do not fly close to the southern "pole"

PS. The tourist flights he mentioned fly over 1000 miles one direction OVER Antarctica the entire way. And they have 9 different routes in order to show repeat fliers different sights each time. If they are covering 1000 miles over 9 different directions, well, it seems that your 'ice wall' is just simply no where to be found.

What's bizarre is that you talk about 'repeatable experiments' for our model (which you then ignore) but you believe in an ice wall that there is zero evidence for and every reason to believe it does not exist at all.

See how the mentality is? You are not, at all, interested in science. You just want everyone to bow down and accept your ridiculous attestations because you used the word 'science' and called everyone who doesn't believe in an ice wall 'brainwashed'. Interesting way to do 'science'.

The "proofs" I've seen so far of a flat Earth are actually less numerous and impressive than what I'd normally expect from a conspiracy theory that's had as long to fester as this one.