Follow Friday: How do you vote?

in #followfriday7 years ago (edited)

Hey, hey, it's Friday! Time for another batch of Steemians. I have to try and think of who to include each week. Today I'll look at my replies tab to see who has been leaving good comments recently. As I keep saying, it's good comments that get the rewards and the attention. I really am not that interested in 'nice post', 'I upvote and resteem'. It's about the conversations for me.

These may well be people I've featured before.

  • @teamhumble is a blogger, vlogger and video maker. He lives in a caravan in the UK. I met him at Steemfest and he's a lovely chap.
  • I've also met @dickturpin, but that was at a Linux event a few years back. He's up in the UK Midlands. He posts some funny stories of life in the IT business.
  • @rebeccabe is a lovely lady in the USA. We've never met, but we chat a lot on Skype. We disagree on a lot of things, but still seem to stay friends. She's more into the spiritual side of life than me. She's also learning more about photography.
  • @trevor.george is a chap of similar age to me in New Zealand. He's into running very long distances. I like running too, but I don't go that far.
  • @dailyrunner is someone I met via @runningproject. She really does run every day. I just can't manage that. The running community on Steemit is really growing.

Please check them out and post your own suggestions. You can do your own #FollowFriday post if you like.

Voting

I wanted to say something about voting, but it's not worth a separate post. We each have our own ways of voting on Steemit and I thought I would share how I do it. This assumes you have at least a few hundred SP so that you get the voting slider. The way things work is that if you vote up to 10 times each day at 100% then your voting power will recover by the next day. New users can only vote at 100%, so they should limit their votes that won't be worth much anyway.

Once you pass the threshold you get a slider like this when you vote. Yours may not show the money amount. I use the Steemit More Info extension that adds a few things to the Steemit web interface. I understand sites like Busy may offer different features.

Slider

So you can give a vote of anything from 1% to 100%. My full vote is $1.47 according to Steem Now. That also shows my voting power. If you keep it around 80% then it can recover quickly. Note that some people are using other tools that allow them to give even smaller votes. I'm not sure what they use.

Steem now

I very rarely give a 100% vote. That's saved for something really special that I want to support. In general I'll give posts up to around 30% and comments up to 20%. That allows me to votes 50 or more times each day. I like to give good comments on my posts something to encourage them to come back. If there's no sign they even read the post then they may get nothing, or even a flag if I want to deter spam. I want the best comments to appear at the top.

Comment

I also throw some small votes around to comments on other posts to move them up the list if there are currently 'nice post' comments above them. It's all about encouraging the behaviour I want to see. If you decided your own comment was worth a vote then it's likely to get less from me.

You'll note that I haven't mentioned curation rewards. That's not something I worry about too much. I rarely make more than a few Steem cents that way on anything and I'm more interested in sharing the rewards. It's important that we maximise our voting to spread the rewards as much as possible. That's partly why I have delegated around half of my SP to others for them to use. I don't really get anything from that unless they happen to vote on my stuff although some of the projects I support that way pay me a dividend. It's nothing major. Really big accounts can make serious money just from voting, but what I get isn't enough for me to expend extra effort on finding the optimal strategy.

I do cast a very few automatic votes using Steem Voter to support certain people, but most of my voting is manual. I tried some voting trails, but I found my vote was going to posts I wouldn't generally support. I realise that's a way to ensure your voting power gets used even when you are away. I may look at that again some time.

So, is this different to what you do? I welcome questions and suggestions.

Steem on!

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I personally like to throw 100% votes to people I actually follow.
Obviously I can't do that with all of them daily, so I'm picky in regards to content and sometimes in regards to consistency and effort.
I am someone that does relatively well with curation also, so once I've thrown the 100s out, I usually hop over to "hot" and throw 40% at any content I find that not only do I feel is good content, but also hasn't hit the 1hr mark yet.
That's my general voting style.
Oh and the wife, anytime she posts she gets the hundo!
Happy wife happy life!

smart move with the "hundo" on wifeys posts !

She knows what my vote is worth so sometimes she even makes me vote on her damn comments.
Wives

I don't tend to look at trending too much. If it's on there then it's probably made more than enough

I don't believe in more than enough.
Given not everything on trending should be there but the stuff that deserves to be there... Deserves votes.
However, I'm going to edit it now...I meant to say "hot" not trending.
My opinion of trending remains the same though.

Followfriday

I really love this idea. I’ve been spreading around the idea a little bit and I hope to get more engaged with it over time. I really needed create one sooner so more people have time to react and give it a try. That is always high sight though. Perhaps next week I’ll make the time to get on things sooner.

Voting

I’ve always run my voting power ragged. The lower it goes often times the smaller my votes get and stay till it has some time to recover. I’ve noticed too many people aim for 80% and while that is great they often are sitting at 100% for hours or even days.

I hold the same viewpoint as it comes to curation rewards. It’s not something I think about. People often tell me I’m doing it wrong and I’ll be missing out on a lot of rewards. I’ll look at their reward and maybe they are double mine when equally compared in SP.

Before 500 SP

I voted for anything and if I was at 40% voting power it made little difference to me. I voted for both comments and blogs galore. I treated it like tossing around confetti and it was fun.

After 500 SP

It is somewhat hard to describe as it is a bit all over the place. Sometimes by necessity as my voting power runs under 50% and other times I just needed to change things up and see how it works out.

Comments I tend to go 10-30% depending on how good of a comment it was and how my voting power is doing. Once a blog is over 2 days old I usually don’t reward comments anymore as I’ve moved into other things.

Blogs I’ll go anywhere from 10-100% with a few factions in mind: my current voting power, how old is the post, how good was the post, how many more votes could I be making, how high are the rewards already? Too many people won’t touch let along comment on blogs over 30 minutes old.

There are a couple of people I support that I’ll do my best to give them bigger upvote then I was at the time. Many times someone will be new or they started doing something truly amazing but not many people have seen it yet. Often times I’ll spend a couple hours in private chat with them in discord and I just won't do what I can for them. Often times they don’t produce daily content so I much rather give that a higher vote.

For me, the community is a big thing. I spent a lot of time reading and engaging with the community and certain tags. Sadly my voting tends to go more towards the smaller scale just because of voting volume. The main community I’m in I try and hit fifty to hundred members maybe in a week. I tend to prioritize my voting towards those creating amazing content and are undervalued. Most of the time their most recent blog is a couple of days old so I don’t give them a big upvote.

Well that's a comprehensive answer. I tend to give bigger rewards to the really creative people who have put in a lot of work, e.g. musicians and artists. For many of them it is their living

Thanks for including me and mentioning the @runningproject! Much appreciated fellow runner!


There are just a few (many) things depending on how you see life and what your belief system is. That is what makes this all so interesting.@steevc now what are you doing telling how we agree to disagree?

The one thing we have agreed on is that friendship comes before money.

Glad you mentioned me thanks :)

Thanks for the info dude! I'm not up that far in Steem Power yet but once I am, I'll definitely use the slider advice! Looking at my steemnow page, it looks like I need to let my voting power recover... Haha! When I first started steemit, I was powering down and converting my steem power but I've stopped doing that so I can build it up and give higher votes.

I try to go out on New posts every other day to spread goodwill and live it when I come across a 100%’er. But I mainly stick to my feed and range from 20% - 100%. And in my comments I range from 1% to 20% typically with an occasional 100% of course depending on the comment. I think the comments are many times better than original postings.

I'd like to look at the New page more, but I just haven't had time. I follow so many as it is, but I see some newbies via resteems.

I do have some people on autovoter, mostly the earliest connections I made on Steem and also the regular upvoters I had. My vote isn’t worth much but to me it’s about the principle of giving back. And, of course, hopefully some day my vote may be worth more and those people will continue to benefit their autovote.

Other than that I regularly check my feed and also post promotion groups like theSteemengine and upvote content I like. Using busy.org I have access to the slider, despite low SP, and generally vote 25-50% allowing me to vote multiple times. I also try to reward all decent comments I receive.

I tried a curation trail, frontrunning the Utopian bot but generally it just wasn’t worth it and I prefer to allocate that VP to additional manual votes. Curation SP rewards are rather minimal, IMHO too minimal to actually care about.

I heard about that slider before, but I didn't know that you get it at a certain amount of SP. SO learned something new again :)... My voting behavior is based on replies on my posts (if people realy took the time reading it) or at great posts I read. (like this one). Unfortunatly my vote isn't worth much yet. But I am investing all my 'earnings' in SP again because I really love and want to contribute to this great platform. !! Thanks for this eyeopening post :)

Even if your vote is worth little I value your contribution

Done with pleasure !! thank you ....

new users can post through busy.org and utilize the slider right away

I'd heard that, but I've not been on there recently.

I wish I had more Steem Power so I could vote effectively for the things I support. LOL. $0.01 is not really giving the appreciation I want to.... I am plugging away to build it up and when I get there.... I think I like your model and being able to vote 50 times effectively a day. There is lots of people on here I want to spread the love around to!!! =)

Just keep it up there and you can increase your power. It's taken me ages to get this far.

I absolutely will!! I want to take all my Steem earnings to do only charity at some point in time. I want to use this platform to help others. I don't know what that looks like yet in details but I know that is the end goal!!

Hey, a totally unrelated question...
If you earn 10$ from a post, why does the pending payout show 5 sbd?
Shouldn't the pending payout be 10$ divided by the current value of SBD..
Sorry once again for this unrelated question

Let me try to explain how the payout is calculated.
If your post reward is at 50/50. Note that 50% initially goes to your steem power and 50% is meant for you in form of sbd.
But also 25% of each(steem power and sbd) goes for curators(your upvoters).
So in summary 25% for curation award then the remaining 75% is shared 50/50 between your steempower and actual payout(sbd)
For example, you earn 10$ from your post.
2.5sbd is shared among curators, you get 3.75sbd in payout and the other 3.75 is converted to steempower.
I hope i was able to answer your question.

Sbd is designed to worth 1$
the fact that at the moment worth around 4.5 is something odd tbh.
So theoretically in a post that closed the 7 days at exactly 10$ you ll get the 75%.So it is 7.5 for you.now from this 7.5 you ll take half is sbd which is 3.75(nd not 0.8 which is his currency) and the steem is paid by its currency market)
I hope i explained it good enough

I'm not totally sure what the calculation is based on. I don't worry about it too much as long as I get something.

Thanks both of you @levitated-mind @mindtrap for the detailed explanation :)

I get it, you consider votes as a mean to distribute reward/promotion on steemit, not as something to earn money from and that's really laudable...
I got my voting slider a week ago courtesy of steem delegation and it really feels cool...

As I said, what I make from curation is no big deal. I make more from comments. I want to build up the community in whatever ways I can.

That's the way this community will compete the likes of facebook and twitter...People like you who think of community first...

No matter how much you vote it is always great to see awesome people like yourself helping the community in here and helping it to grow stronger and with an high quality.

Cheers. I love this community and I want to see it keep on growing.

Same here. And you are a huge part of it.

For minnows like me, we can only vote with 100% because our vote worth is second to nothing.

Thank God it's friday and i do hope you have a lovely weekend. So what I'm doing is - i sell my upvotes to @smartsteem, the little token gotten from that, i use it to power up. And i also set my post rewards to 100% instead of 50/50 inorder to hasten the increase of my steempower.

Actually you should be better off doing 50/50 and not 100% power up as the price of sbd is not 1$.
Say you get 10$ on a post so 7.5$ is yours and let the price of steem be 5$. Out of that if you do 100% power up, you'll get 1.5 SP.
If you do 50/50 you'll get 3.75 SBD and 0.75SP.
Now you can use that 3.75sbd to buy more steem from the internal market or any other exchange. That way you'll have more steem power.

Thanks for this explanation. So thoughtful. I get it now and I'm never doing 100% post reward again

Not never. When sbd is at $1, there's not much of a difference and when its less than a dollar, 100% power up is better.

I personally think can't go back to being lesser than $1.

When your vote is worth nothing then your comments have to have value so you are contributing something.

I'll keep trying my best to contribute the best way i can.
Thank you very much!

I really like your theme"followfriday". I have checked on the people you have mentioned above and I think all of them are up to the expectations and I think @rebeccabe is a great person and her photography skills are excellent and @trevor.george is a great writer and also @teamhumble, his contributions to steemit are worthy to note. Thank you Steve for your contributions and I hope my presence will make some difference.

You can do your own post to share people you like

Sure, thank you sir.

What threshold do I have to cross before I can get a slider? Is it based on reputation or sp?

Unless things have changed least on Steemit the voting slider is 1 million vest. That was in the past somewhere around 480-490 SP. I don’t exactly recall when I unlocked it.

@steevc @blaineb

Cheers. They don't make this obvious and most people don't understand vests anyway. It would be cool to be able to gain other features based on SP and/or reputation to encourage people to keep at it.

I would love to see something based around reputation. That has always been rather important to me. It has become a bit deviled these days even say reputation 60 due to how fast vote buying can get people there these days. I always laugh just a little when someone wants bring up how they earned their outstanding reputation level and yet their wallet tells a different story of just buying it

Having everything public means you can be judged on your actions. Reputation ought to be worth more as it's hard to get it really high. I'm happy to have got to 70, but it could be a year before I see 71.

It's based on SP. I think you need around 300. If someone delegates enough to you then you can get it that way

Thanks for answering the question, i thought it was supposed to be 150, my new goal is 300 so i can spread my upvotes around with the influx of new users bringing their established content to the platform like @tommysotomayor

I don't think it's a fixed number, so I don't know it exactly. Look out for people saying they got the slider and that may help.

i adore people who genuinely give thoughtful comments based upon the content of the posts as a sign of appreciation and value. They are worth rewarding. ;)

keep the awesomeness going @steevc ;))

Yes its Friday and voted already hehehe

I am waiting for that slider to show up...i usually get annoyed by looking at the beautifully created content but my vote doesnt count....i give it for the appriciation...

You'll get there eventually. I was many months before I got it.

But this waiting really kills...it feels like passing through thousand dead years...

Nothing great comes quickly. You just got here.

Though my vote doesn't count as much , I vote at posts which I like enough to comment.
I don't vote at comments cause that won't help anybody. I self vote my comments when I think that my comment is gonna be buried by spammers.

I agree steev, should every comment can provide constructive feedback, for the good of future posts. continued success of friends.

i really appreciate good content.i always upvote good posts even though my vote power is minimal...

That's good. Just make your comments good so they add to the conversation. Then you will earn more

sure!
people like you make this steemit awesome
inspiration for newbies, thankyou!

nice post @steevc i like your post to much thanks for sharing post

You obviously didn't read it...

Unfortunately you have never upvoted me manually :)

Why should I? There has to be a reason to vote. I don't just give them away.

It was only a joke.. but If you check my works, I would be very happy..

Sorry. I don't always have time to check each person. Wish you all the best

dear @steevc your good post... i like your all post... I look forward to every one of your #post..thank you so very much for #sharing..

Did you read it? I can't tell, so you don't get a vote