The Great Voting Debate: To Vote Or Not to Vote with Jeff Berwick and Mark Skousen at Freedomfest


Jeff Berwick and Mark Skousen on The Great Voting Debate at Freedomfest in Las Vegas, topics include: the politics of voting, voting and the constitution, consent, mandatory voting, moral voting, disenfranchisement, creating the world that you want, rights violations, the foolishness of central planning, government is a dangerous belief, the lesser of two evils, shrinking the size of government, complacency and virtue, voluntarism, the myth of authority, voting just encourages the bastards!

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I vote, and I do my best to communicate with others about the value of voting, but there is a cynical part of me which strongly identifies with the Emma Goldman, quote:
"if voting changed anything they'd make it illegal"

If you read her wiki, you see some striking, scary thoughts about voting:
"Goldman believed that voting was useless at best and dangerous at worst. Voting, she wrote, provided an illusion of participation while masking the true structures of decision-making."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman#The_state_%E2%80%93_militarism,_prison,_voting,_speech

Again, I vote, but it does seem true that between: gerrymandering, redlining, corporate donors, mass media focused news coverage, super pacs, superdelegates, and other unsavoury tactics the "democratic" process available to much of the "free" world, is at minimum, impaired.

"Goldman believed that voting was useless at best and dangerous at worst. Voting, she wrote, provided an illusion of participation while masking the true structures of decision-making."

Sick quote. I agree with it. The election process is basically like a charade, as I see it, and best just not to give life to it.

I don't think there's anything technically wrong with voting (or running for office) tho, as some anarchists/voluntaryists will claim. It doesn't violate the non-aggression principle. I see it as just pointless and maybe a waste of energy.

Phew what a debate!
Both are valid views and were well presented.

Well done!

You have to vote. You cannot always hardfork your life, if You dont like your local goverment

Berwick lives in Mexiko right - apparently they have a communist regime right now, also without hin Not voting? Will he move away from acapulco? Probably not (anarchapulco)

government indeed is a dangerous believe, living life with the hope of government kills faster than you can ever imagine.

Great video Jeff. Always good to get reminded where my head need to be. Uv & Rs.

Excellent video. I am totally with Jeff.

I'm surprised you took sh%t from that @sshole. You're a better man than I am. I don't vote because it's the system which is rigged. A system they control which enslaves us into a false believe; an illusion of choice. Voting validates that they have control over us and yes, it does encourage them.

Stop Voting and send a CHILL up their spine.