He's in a tough situation and grasping for any sort of support or understanding that he can.
His upvotes came from good will... But trust me. The guy is upset. He's even considering leaving Hive altogether.
He's a good guy... That's what good people do when you bump them. Only good things spill out. (unlike when you bump bad people... A whole lot of bad spills out more than often.)
His UP votes weren't because he was enjoying himself and wanted to be a punching bag. Your words directly moved against his voice and freewill. Thinking that it is ok to limit or impose yourself on someone else's freedom (it's there Hive account yes?) by dictating things outside of the functions that the code clearly grants to everyone's account isn't just words... It's unfriendly and uncalled for.
So don't think your doing anyone any favors here... because I think most people reading these comments know... this just isn't the case.
If you continue to be unfriendly in stance around people voting posts they like on the 6th day... Then I suggest to you a more constructive course of action that will be much much better going forward... (However! Take it or leave it... your free to do what you want... even if there are very real consequences in terms of Social Capital here on Hive.)
My suggestion is to write a proposal (for the other Hive owners evaluation) to change the payout or upvote day to 6 days rather than the current 7.
Downvoting someone for doing what the code allows is just that. Unfriendly.
No one new would understand this disfunction... If this idea is burning out experienced owners... Imagine what it will do to someone new.
Ok.
I'm finished talking now.
This has given both of us plenty to think about hasn't it?
Let's leave it there.
Then keep telling how to conduct myself and offer the same consequence that you so abhor. You're not really straying away from the path you're trying to fight against. It's just policing to make people friendly or suffer the consequences of being downvoted that's the takeaway message here. It's either people just keep to them themselves what's really on their mind than being honest that people aren't really into the same thing anyone subscribes with.
They can comment and join in or keep stuff to themselves. None of that matters if they aren't planning to exercise their freedom to say what's on their mind.
I'm fine with the current timeline for payout timeline and ability to vote so I doubt I'd compel myself to make one.
Would that also apply to downvoting someone for sharing hate speech and all unpleasant things as the code allows it to be? I'm sure plagiarized posts, spam , and phising links get a pass because they are allowed by the code to exist and to tolerate them is unfriendly. You still haven't given me your take on this post. Were they intentionally being unfriendly or they just be exercising their freedom to be unfriendly?
Not really, if anything, you made me reaffirm my stand on the issue. Compelling people to be friendly or get downvoted is the message you're sending with the course of action you took earlier and that's no different than being a moral police. People don't have to live agreeing with each other all the time in a decentralized ecosystem.
Plagiarism and spam is never good for any network. That’s what the downvote is for. Yes. But even if an account is guilty of this behaviour due process and decorum should still be our MO. If we don’t handle things in this way and professionally we only harm ourselves on Social2.0 and the wider crypto market. HOW is just as important as WHAT. And the Hive price will directly reflect how we treat our own.
So you mention that people should discuss first prior to giving downvotes on other people and yet I got post discussion after I got downvoted by you? The due process and decorum comes after the downvotes? Ok noted bruh.
That’s the thing... until it is implemented in code... this is how it works. Do I like it? Not really. It’s a blindside at best. But when behaviour is clearly unfriendly... I guess, until the process is improved, I’m ok with it. I know your mad about it... but imagine how the owner of this account (that’s posted this post) must be feeling right now... if you think about it... and use this emotion to feel for the guy... maybe you won’t downvote him next time... especially for something so absurd.
Thank you for saying so. Yea just blindsided and no communication. It made this a much more stressful experience then if should of been working out any issue. I appreciate you taking the time to speak. Cheers
It's kind of counter to what you preach that people discuss first prior to giving downvotes and this response is rather convenient for the act? nah man, I'm saying don't tell me people should talk first before throwing downvotes when you can't do the same thing here. It's not like I'm making this up. I'm not mad, I expected flak whenever I enter into the drama this is how it usually goes. Just found it funny to be preached about due process and what not only to be treated like the same evil fought against. Makes me think it's just a bunch of lip service under virtue.
I didn't continue downvoting the guy and removed my downvote (from this account because the others are dust votes), on those posts that haven't paid out yet anyway. You assumed I wasn't being considerate? I should have just kept my silence and leave them to to do some guess work than be civil, yet here we are loving each other's company.
When I see unfriendliness(especially in the comments) it’s fair game. The sentiment is already plain for everyone to see and laid bare in the comments... there’s no need to go through the mental gymnastics of explaining when it’s there to see.
Systemically I think we need to improve. Yes. It will result in a friendlier Hive.
Just because the laser pointer marks the spot doesn’t mean that the damage hasn’t already been done by the bazooka.
Well you're kind of right about not going further as the more we continue the more I'm getting convinced about not regretting anything. Thanks for helping me reaffirm my convictions. You go do your moral moral policing and we can go on our merry ways. You're no different from the stuff you preach against. Here's an unsolicited advice, when you disagree, just go downvote the hell instantly without any explanation why or explain right after is optional.
Don't preach things like "due process and decorum" when you you're doing the same stuff you disapprove. You instantly carpet bombed my comments and the only thing that surprised me was reading due process and how downvotes are bad when I wasn't given your audience to begin with. You jumped the gun there. I don't have to explain why I upvote/support/like something and I don't have to explain why I can dislike something.
If you're going to give me sanctions for expressing what I think, that's cool, I respect that about decentralization but never go on a high horse being in the right when doing the same stuff your perceived villains would also do. Not everything I believe in can be agreed on and the same goes for everyone else here, we just find some grounds in tolerating everyone else as the closest thing we can get to peace.
You're still welcome to give me downvotes though, not like I didn't know I'd get flak if I started using the downvote button. We have already reached a conclusion here as far as I know. Good luck on your project.
Agreeing has nothing to do with being kind, respectful, or friendly (or all of the above) and seeing as everyone does have the ability atm to downvote what they think is bad for this blockchain... whenever I come across unfriendly behaviour (which isn’t all that often actually! Most of the time I’m UPvoting for all the good reasons I find on Hive.)
I’m not attempting to police anything... I’m only directly impacting the things I can when they are in proximity to me. I guess today was your lucky day! 🙃
You can take it from me or not if you like. We are all free to do as we with here... but of course none of these things come without consequences... that’s the beauty of blockchain! 😉
Preaching the same thing I do but on a high horse.
Did you downvote Marky by any chance? I'm just curious if my luck stat was got a recent debuff or my pleb status had an impact on the roll of dice.
You're really in a bubble if this is the first time we interacted if we judge your social proximity. I'm all about mining the drama on Hive and haven't seen your name up often.
I downvoted AcidYo the other day for being an a$$ hat. I’m not afraid to follow through. So far Mark has given me no reason to take this level of action. His words are short but he did take the time to communicate back and also inquire. I have no reason to doubt that he will be back here and he will be sorting things out. But of course... we all get to watch our (and others) values play out in the form of the actions we take on the blockchain. I’m doing my best to spread what’s best about people... and you better believe it... it somethings happening that isn’t good for Hive and it’s people... I’m an action man. I take action even if someone like you doesn’t agree or like it.
I’m all about disagreement... it’s what give context to everything... but intellectually it should always be done with respect and yes... it is possible to disagree while still being friendly... anything else is toxic for everyone involved and clearly shows that the person doing so doesn’t understand the first thing about Social Capital.