The Gridcoin Voting Process
The Gridcoin in-wallet voting process was discussed during this Saturday's Hangout in the Gridcoin Discord.
Watch unedited clip here:
Or on Hooktube (no regional blocks):
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=wRZLwjY3p6s
You can hear in the hangout that users are quite confused about what length a whitelist poll should be vs. the length of a development compensation poll. These things need to be a standard. A given. We need to develop well-formed guidelines, so that poll creation is demystified and standardized.
We are probably going to be adding a new section to the Wiki about clearly defined poll obligations as to what kind of poll is being developed. e.g. Whitelist polls - how long should they be?
One of the suggestions I had was to handicap/par the voting results, or to weight different amounts of GRC against each other. e.g. : people with 0-500, 500-1000, 1000-5000. 5000-25000, 25000-100000... in the same bracket, so to speak. And then the bracketed results being put against each other.
I understand that the argument is that people with more GRC have more literal "stake" in the coin... but then I fear that financial interest is being equated with personal interest, and I think this isn't necessarily so.
Poll Creation
As it is now, anyone with 100,000 GRC can create a poll. It is being discussed to lower this barrier, and I might agree with this move. While I have enough to create a poll... there are users that have been here just as long as me that are still ~15000 GRC.
Having less isn't their fault, and it doesn't mean their opinion matters less. However, lowering the amount opens the opportunity to create polls to a wider amount of people. While this may sound like a good idea - democracy, and all that - we might see some trolling, and we might some polls that are unnecessary.
It's not that hard to get someone to create a poll for you... what is hard, is figuring out as the poll creator: how long to make it, how to weight it, "should I include abstain?", etc.
Poll Indicators
It has been discussed in a few hangouts that we could use some kind of notification system, indicating there was a new poll, or to notify that you hadn't voted for an important poll. "Flashing lights".
Furthermore, a colour-coding system as a way to distinguish between types of polls has been thought about. https://github.com/gridcoin/Gridcoin-Research/issues/760
I'd really like some input from the community here on Steemit. Please comment as to what you'd like to see happen with the Gridcoin voting system.
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Before we even think about lowering the 100,000 coin requirement, I think we should have some client-enforced poll creation requirements such as:
Different categories could have different requirements. For instance a casual poll could have a creation requirement of only 5k coins, and a foundation poll could have a requirement of 50k coins AND must have a duration longer than 4 weeks.
These are just ideas and I'm open to discussion. Overall I just think we need a voting overhaul before that number is touched.
in my opinion, abstention is essentially a wasted vote/a way to split the vote. spending money to say you officially don't care about something is a funny concept to me. :D
it's also a way to ignore someone's poll. say, someone that isn't very well-liked in the community creates a poll... rather than having to give their poll actual thought, many could vote abstain, and it would be like a group shunning. i think some of the past polls and proposals have been sort of ridiculous, but we have to regard everyone's ideas with the same respect. "majority rule don't work in mental institutions...", but i don't think many of us are actually insane. true democracy might be observed here.
a new user creating a poll wouldn't know what to expect for "lowest valid voter participation"... i think that might be a bit unrealistic.
these are my ideas about your ideas. lol. and i do agree with you that more thought needs to be given to contingencies, etc, before changing the amount. for example, the developer compensation poll... if it had failed, the developers wouldn't have been paid at all. that's fairly ludicrous, and kinda sorta extortion. not wanting to see the developers get paid at all, and being against a pay increase - are 2 different things, but they were lumped together in this way.
I think the abstain option is a good idea because the alternative would be not voting. You could consider not voting as an abstain, but then again, do you really know if they read the proposal and decided they don't care about the outcome? or did they miss the poll in its entirety? If you don't have that abstain option, you really don't know.
If you set up rigid categories like I explained above, new users will probably be making casual polls which I don't think should require a minimum vote weight requirement, because casual polls shouldn't be actionable and only get a community opinion per se. New users who have a high balance in order to make the bigger polls, are obviously invested in gridcoin, and probably have/should have done their homework about what vote weight to select before making an important poll. Simply put, I don't think this will be much of an issue.
As for the recent developer compensation poll, I don't see this situation as the fault of this poll. If you add a clause like "if this poll does not pass, developers will continued to be paid $30/hr", then you're saying if it fails, part of the poll will be enacted anyway. Which makes my stomach feel weird to be honest. The problem is that the previous poll (the one that paid devs $30/hr initally) only stated it would be in effect for the next 6 months. What it should have stated was the $30/hr had no expiration, and we would have a poll every 6 months to review it.
very nice video
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man you know you got my support in this
If you are wondering why gridcoin does not have democratic voting. Democratic in a sense that one citizen has only one vote. It is because there are no ID cards on the internet. There is currently no way to tell that a person already voted.
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