@berniesanders - Can you explain to me how this works and why you are working to downvote Haejin? I have done fairly well listening to Haejin and like to continue listening but this has become a huge distraction. To a layman can you explain the benefit anyone gets from downvoting? I am new to the system. Thanks!
@berniesanders, you have the option to flag @haejin, if you disagree with his work. I think posting one liners, like this defeats the purpose of what your going on about. Just saying...
True, but at the same time it also wastes their voting power by drawing flags. Don't worry, like I said, my work is just about done here. Others are starting to take care of things so we can even out the load a little bit. Back to having fun, I'd rather be giving out votes in chat or whatever than wasting voting power on flagging some shit posts.
Your such a loser dude. Watching your money dwindle away makes me so happy LMAO
Hey, watch your damn language. If you think @berniesanders is playing SOLO, think again. The Whale-Group has an overwealming responsibility to do what we can to keep the Rewardpool above 750,000 STEEM per WEEK, which is the rewards all bloggers get, which is what? 50,000 active accounts?
Total Reward Fund: 694,111 STEEM (Worth: $2,253,086 internally; $2,172,516 on Bittrex)
As you can see, our users reward-pool has been drained by about 56,000 STEEM... So why is that? Well, the answer is simple - OverVoting!!
Make Sure you keep your VOTING-POWER above 80% if you are dolphin and above 90% if you are whale. When we vote for people, we have an obligation to ourselves and our peers and users to vote responsible.
Getting pissed off and offended I can understand as a reaction - but understand this that any single account running away with 0.6% of the rewardpool is too much. There are other ways to use SteemPower in a way that will reward the whale + reward more users.
I invite you all to come to http://SteemSpeak.com and get to know the hardcore steem community and learn more about SteemPower potential and economically sustainable voting-practice
We are all co-owners of STEEM, so this is important and I don't care who you are or how much power you have, vote responsible and things will be fine. But keep voting irresponsible, and get the capital-community against you.
Keeping things balanced is important, and whales that do not understand that, may find themselves beached away from the fish for a long time.
The sooner you guys get it - the sooner you can go back to having fun.
I think this story is totally Messy. If upvoting and draining STEEM is a problem now it could be ever in the future with others persons, others @haejin, others Whales upvoting and others @berniesanders downvoting or flagging or making some personal wars in the name of others, so what will happen?
If the mechanism is a problem , is a problem of the developer of this platform and of this system. So they must take the situation in their hand, and fix the problem, doing limitation or something to avoid this messy and wars between people and followers. I don't care anything of all this bad situation... I just learn a lot from people who post contents and i want that people continue to post contents and not wasting time doing wars of upvoting, downvoting and other bullshit of this platform. It seems to me all just whims of nerd children. Be men, put aside this bullshit, and honor your century and what it is making available to us, continuing to publish interesting content, for the good of humanity.
I see the only whales allowed are bernie and his commie crew. Any one gets a little to big. They come to step on them. The Communists run things here. They jump out the bushes and steal people's money just like good commie's do. We must only do it there way. I bought some steem but now using it i see it's a controlled environment. Controlled by self proclaimed leaders who probably walk around at home in steem uniforms with badges and metals feeling important. This is just another social media hell hole. One of the coins that will fail unless power is removed from scum like bernie. I am selling my coins.
Man.. I joined Steam just to read from @hajein advices.. This flag situation is creating too much noise, @haejin is not posting.. I can say for sure that he was bringing atention to steamit. This hole situation just hurts it. nice..
Keep putting out more one liner lies about @haejin.....MORE VISIBILITY!!!!!!! MORE FOLLOWERS!!!!!!
You're so dim witted that ALL Steemians can see right through you..evil, hatred, revenge, hurtful, damaging, pugnacious for no cause, deviant, sly, liar, cheat and such a dark, unhappy individual, pepetually depressed but ready to hurt anyone and at anytime. So sad. What you do to other people is a pathetic reflection of your inward state!
At the beginning I was irritated about the supposed abuse of haejin. After looking into it, it just all seems ridiculous can we trust Berniesanders with negative 17 reputation? His army of bots and randowhale down voting everything, ridiculous, the comma in the supposed evidence did it for me and his one liners did it for me. So go ahead down vote me see if I care.
Sureeee it was. Just so happened to be at the crucial time when giving evidence which is over exaggerated. So much hypocrisy going on here. There needs to be better system checks in place.
We are the system. You and I are the system. Haejin and Bernie are the system. We can each do our part. If enough of us have the goal to resolve our differences, we will come up with a solution. Do you have a solution you would like to suggest?
If you mute them, you cannot see their posts. Therefore you don't have the issue of worrying about what they say! It pisses them off the end as they're doing it for your reaction. In the end, they look like the dick and not you.
KISS MY ASS!! You two bit liar and thief!!
You tried to fool the Steemit community with fabricated evidence of me taking 6% of reward pool but got caught by forensic evidence of your dimb witted brain not knowing the difference between a comma and a period. Getting caught exemplified exactly how dumb you really are!
You should be embarassed of your obtuse level of intelligence!
Do you even know the meaning of OBTUSE? You uneducated piece a turd! Are you even college educated? Or have you always gotten by through cheating, lying and being a deviant scum?
Keep up the good work with your TA blog. People appreciate the accuracy as you have a gift.
Focus on that rather than jealous squabble.
Your followers don't want to see you get involved in arguments with trolls as frustrating as it is. His goal is to make you look bad. Don't let him win. We'll downvote him when he posts something negative on your blog. If you ignore him, he'll go away and annoy someone else. Trust me.
Take it from me, don't feed the troll. Remember, he's jealous of your TA skills - that's what it comes down to. He knows it, I know it, your followers know it.
can you just use your common sense on determining acidents through lazy people?
this anti-spammer war is just like a drug-war
i cant explaine it here to you cause the comment could be considered of topic which stands against the steemit FAQ
but unless you have a EFFECTIVE solution, fighting the spammers one by one is just a waste of time.
and downvoting with a nasty comment with no helpful words rather than to use as argument which is off-topic of the post.
Let me remind you posting and commenting the same stuff is useless even with shear numbers!
and what your doing is already off topic,this is about the way you post not berniesanders.
just comment at your own post if your going to comment like this. @berniesanders has his own crypto-problems too!
and i respect him for not down-voting you! even though you already did this a dozen times.
Maybe it decreased later due to mass downvotes on Haejin's account...Someone calculated it and it was 2% ... Well it's still one third of it! Or maybe whole site's buggy and the data presented there is inaccurate. But I tell you this... Bernie won't manipulate a image just to exaggerate his point and earn extra rewards in his post. He can always spend SBD to boost his post but he doesn't need to lie to attract attention to his post!
Actually, read the post ... or at least this part of it:
I fixed a bug which was displaying the percentage a certain user was taking from the entire reward pool resulting in higher numbers than the actual percentage.
The comma and the higher percentage was all part of the bug. Still doesn't change that he's been getting more than a reasonable share due to one whale. Where one or more can give, one or more can return. That is a fact of life on this platform.
Interesting, I thought when I first read the post outlining the oddities, that no one would be dumb enough to edit the percentage without editing the other numbers but once I saw bernie's response I assumed he had hit the nail on the head tbh.
well to be fair bernie had the chance to to say oops, it's a bug but 1% is still too high. instead he shit talked and downvoted, given that I think it's a reasonable conclusion to come to if you are not following this drama too closely.
Once my trades work well I will turn to steem and become a dolphin to upvote you. Haha, people who add value like you should be rewarded. One liners and bot armies should be down voted. It's like we are in a concentration camp. Ohh geeez.
@Haejin, I truly love your content, but this high school drama bullshit posting war is wrecking your credibility, man. Flagging it is one thing but you don't need to respond to it. You need to take the high road.
Fight him by putting out the content we all came here to see.
Wow. What is going on here? Did I miss something? You know guys, there are two types of people; educated and uneducated. I won't point at anyone, we're all free to decide who's in which group. But let me tell you something, being constantly envious of someone without giving any consideration on what the other one has and how he got it will not help to get access to the 'educated club'. However, it gives free tickets to the other club where close, similar minded friends are also invited. The problem is that, this club is rather just a box where all you can achieve is to be stuck. Now talking to a box where there's nothing inside cannot solve any issues, it's like talking to a wall, it won't listen but hears everything.
Unfortunately, changing the the perception of those in the box is almost impossible, focusing on being out of the box is possible. Therefore I won't negatively judge anyone, first because it's not my job, second, I don't like talking to the wall. But I will show my appreciation to those being here to give value, and @haejin is one of them.
I agree with comments above.. You don´t need to go down to their level and waste your time and energy on these childish fools. DON´T LET THEM GET TO YOU!
You are gifted. Much gratitude to you for sharing your insights and knowledge!
Thank you!
speeder (25)in haejin • 2 minutes ago
Haejin, It's time to get back work.
Put aside this diversion and go back to what you excel. You're better than all of this. Your efforts are much needed. Thank you.
yes, a bug ! ahahah ! of course! Believe it! ahahahah , with a wrong math and a blurry image, a bug! ahahah. Believe it! What a sad story. All that messy story sucks, I'll leave steemit, is a loosing project if the developers don't fix this kind of problems.
so first of all, @berniesanders didn't produce the image and secondly it was the developer of the site/tool where the information came from who reported the bug.
So, are you saying you are calling the developer of tool a liar? Why exactly would he lie and let people think his tool wasn't working properly? People need to have faith in the tool or he might as well just take it down. That would be suicide to lie about.
Who know who is lying and for what in this story. You know for sure? would you be willing to put your hand on the fire? People lie for nonsense, so imagine how much they can lie for money. I think that berniesanders could be lying, or the developer according or not with him, or haejin or some others supporters. This story is the worst ever seen on steemit and if cases like this could happens , there may be other cases like this in the future and is just a proof that the something on this platform is wrong and should be immediately changed by the developers. The fault of all this mess is theirs, because they must not allow it to happen
I've often found some find it convenient to impugn the integrity of others. The developer, who is also a witness, could have chose to sit back and let bernie take the heat. Instead he had the integrity to speak up and clear the air. You choose not to believe the guy who has a solid rep on the platform, that is your choice.
it's a decentralized system the developers don't control what goes on. the idea is to have mechanisms which allow the community to self-police. One of those mechanisms is when whales negate excessive rewards to keep the reward pool more evenly distributed.
the biggest problem here is that too many people are failing to understand how the system works and are expecting that some higher authority will step in and change it all. There isn't a higher authority.
There has to be willingness on the part of the participants to hear and understand how the system works.
I made the same mistake when I arrived. I thought that when there was controversy that the company would step in and resolve it eventually. Took me being told, there is no authority other than what the community accepts as standards.
This isn't the first time this sort of upset has occurred. It is the first time that a group of people are so slavishly encamped around one person and seemingly unwilling to learn how things work.
it's a decentralized system the developers don't control what goes on. the idea is to have mechanisms which allow the community to self-police.
the biggest problem here is that too many people are failing to understand how the system works and are expecting that some higher authority will step in and change it all. There isn't a higher authority.
There has to be willingness on the part of the participants to hear and understand how the system works.
@berniesanders - Can you explain to me how this works and why you are working to downvote Haejin? I have done fairly well listening to Haejin and like to continue listening but this has become a huge distraction. To a layman can you explain the benefit anyone gets from downvoting? I am new to the system. Thanks!
@berniesanders, you have the option to flag @haejin, if you disagree with his work. I think posting one liners, like this defeats the purpose of what your going on about. Just saying...
True, but at the same time it also wastes their voting power by drawing flags. Don't worry, like I said, my work is just about done here. Others are starting to take care of things so we can even out the load a little bit. Back to having fun, I'd rather be giving out votes in chat or whatever than wasting voting power on flagging some shit posts.
You are a brainless idiot, you think you can play God here, your time will come... the wheel always turns.
Are you going to reply to @pawsdog post? It's a pretty damning post.
I fear you may actually make someone so mad that they may actually try and find you in real life and not just in the ether.
@Flippedcrypt it was a bug allright... It still shows comma while opening the site from different regions. https://steemit.com/steem/@dragosroua/steem-supply-update-removed-ads-interface-cleanup-bug-fixing
Look before you leap. Don't jump to conclusions without prior research!
Hey, watch your damn language. If you think @berniesanders is playing SOLO, think again. The Whale-Group has an overwealming responsibility to do what we can to keep the Rewardpool above 750,000 STEEM per WEEK, which is the rewards all bloggers get, which is what? 50,000 active accounts?
Total Reward Fund: 694,111 STEEM (Worth: $2,253,086 internally; $2,172,516 on Bittrex)As you can see, our users reward-pool has been drained by about 56,000 STEEM... So why is that? Well, the answer is simple - OverVoting!!
Getting pissed off and offended I can understand as a reaction - but understand this that any single account running away with 0.6% of the rewardpool is too much. There are other ways to use SteemPower in a way that will reward the whale + reward more users.
I invite you all to come to http://SteemSpeak.com and get to know the hardcore steem community and learn more about SteemPower potential and economically sustainable voting-practice
We are all co-owners of STEEM, so this is important and I don't care who you are or how much power you have, vote responsible and things will be fine. But keep voting irresponsible, and get the capital-community against you.
Keeping things balanced is important, and whales that do not understand that, may find themselves beached away from the fish for a long time.
The sooner you guys get it - the sooner you can go back to having fun.
I think this story is totally Messy. If upvoting and draining STEEM is a problem now it could be ever in the future with others persons, others @haejin, others Whales upvoting and others @berniesanders downvoting or flagging or making some personal wars in the name of others, so what will happen?
If the mechanism is a problem , is a problem of the developer of this platform and of this system. So they must take the situation in their hand, and fix the problem, doing limitation or something to avoid this messy and wars between people and followers. I don't care anything of all this bad situation... I just learn a lot from people who post contents and i want that people continue to post contents and not wasting time doing wars of upvoting, downvoting and other bullshit of this platform. It seems to me all just whims of nerd children. Be men, put aside this bullshit, and honor your century and what it is making available to us, continuing to publish interesting content, for the good of humanity.
I agree with you on all 100%
I see the only whales allowed are bernie and his commie crew. Any one gets a little to big. They come to step on them. The Communists run things here. They jump out the bushes and steal people's money just like good commie's do. We must only do it there way. I bought some steem but now using it i see it's a controlled environment. Controlled by self proclaimed leaders who probably walk around at home in steem uniforms with badges and metals feeling important. This is just another social media hell hole. One of the coins that will fail unless power is removed from scum like bernie. I am selling my coins.
It's not half as fun as watching a -1 REP trying to be hard. 1 vote and your comment disappeared. Go die in a fire..
Lol you can go blow a dick @uknowjpbitcoin
Lol Go fuck a goat
Eating popcorn and watching these two. Who wants to bet? Lol
Man.. I joined Steam just to read from @hajein advices.. This flag situation is creating too much noise, @haejin is not posting.. I can say for sure that he was bringing atention to steamit. This hole situation just hurts it. nice..
Keep putting out more one liner lies about @haejin.....MORE VISIBILITY!!!!!!! MORE FOLLOWERS!!!!!!
You're so dim witted that ALL Steemians can see right through you..evil, hatred, revenge, hurtful, damaging, pugnacious for no cause, deviant, sly, liar, cheat and such a dark, unhappy individual, pepetually depressed but ready to hurt anyone and at anytime. So sad. What you do to other people is a pathetic reflection of your inward state!
But I will NOT back down from the likes of you!
At the beginning I was irritated about the supposed abuse of haejin. After looking into it, it just all seems ridiculous can we trust Berniesanders with negative 17 reputation? His army of bots and randowhale down voting everything, ridiculous, the comma in the supposed evidence did it for me and his one liners did it for me. So go ahead down vote me see if I care.
I am in the Haejin camp now!
It was a bug. https://steemit.com/steem/@dragosroua/steem-supply-update-removed-ads-interface-cleanup-bug-fixing
Sureeee it was. Just so happened to be at the crucial time when giving evidence which is over exaggerated. So much hypocrisy going on here. There needs to be better system checks in place.
We are the system. You and I are the system. Haejin and Bernie are the system. We can each do our part. If enough of us have the goal to resolve our differences, we will come up with a solution. Do you have a solution you would like to suggest?
It's in my brain somewhere, just not right now...
Your balls are shrivelled.
Use the mute option on him! You'll win.
No it doesn't work quite like that...
If you mute them, you cannot see their posts. Therefore you don't have the issue of worrying about what they say! It pisses them off the end as they're doing it for your reaction. In the end, they look like the dick and not you.
No muting doesn't deal with the problem. It will still continue until this place is a desert...
@berniesanders Dude, you're a total loser. Get a life!
KISS MY ASS!! You two bit liar and thief!!
You tried to fool the Steemit community with fabricated evidence of me taking 6% of reward pool but got caught by forensic evidence of your dimb witted brain not knowing the difference between a comma and a period. Getting caught exemplified exactly how dumb you really are!
You should be embarassed of your obtuse level of intelligence!
Do you even know the meaning of OBTUSE? You uneducated piece a turd! Are you even college educated? Or have you always gotten by through cheating, lying and being a deviant scum?
Here is PROOF of you fabricating and lying and cheating and it'll trend very shortly for ALL to see!
https://steemit.com/steem/@pawsdog/the-curious-case-of-the-errant-comma-haejin-berniesanders
You? The "Good Whale?" An OxyMoron if there ever was one! (I'm sure you're wondering what "Oxy" has to do with "Moron").
You're right about one thing, your work is almost done...your ABC Crash as I see it as an Elliotician is Dead Ahead!
Don't let the screaches of @randowhale being gutted bother you!
Just ignore him brother...
Keep up the good work with your TA blog. People appreciate the accuracy as you have a gift.
Focus on that rather than jealous squabble.
Your followers don't want to see you get involved in arguments with trolls as frustrating as it is. His goal is to make you look bad. Don't let him win. We'll downvote him when he posts something negative on your blog. If you ignore him, he'll go away and annoy someone else. Trust me.
Take it from me, don't feed the troll. Remember, he's jealous of your TA skills - that's what it comes down to. He knows it, I know it, your followers know it.
Hope you've had a Merry Christmas.
umm hey @haejin?
can you just use your common sense on determining acidents through lazy people?
this anti-spammer war is just like a drug-war
i cant explaine it here to you cause the comment could be considered of topic which stands against the steemit FAQ
but unless you have a EFFECTIVE solution, fighting the spammers one by one is just a waste of time.
and downvoting with a nasty comment with no helpful words rather than to use as argument which is off-topic of the post.
Let me remind you posting and commenting the same stuff is useless even with shear numbers!
and what your doing is already off topic,this is about the way you post not berniesanders.
just comment at your own post if your going to comment like this.
@berniesanders has his own crypto-problems too!
and i respect him for not down-voting you! even though you already did this a dozen times.
Im asian too!
-Filipino
Umm... WHAT??
Hate to get between this war but the image isn't manipulated in any way. It's a bug!
https://steemit.com/steem/@dragosroua/steem-supply-update-removed-ads-interface-cleanup-bug-fixing
There might be some doubt about the comma but the maths...?
Maybe it decreased later due to mass downvotes on Haejin's account...Someone calculated it and it was 2% ... Well it's still one third of it! Or maybe whole site's buggy and the data presented there is inaccurate. But I tell you this... Bernie won't manipulate a image just to exaggerate his point and earn extra rewards in his post. He can always spend SBD to boost his post but he doesn't need to lie to attract attention to his post!
Actually, read the post ... or at least this part of it:
The comma and the higher percentage was all part of the bug. Still doesn't change that he's been getting more than a reasonable share due to one whale. Where one or more can give, one or more can return. That is a fact of life on this platform.
Interesting, I thought when I first read the post outlining the oddities, that no one would be dumb enough to edit the percentage without editing the other numbers but once I saw bernie's response I assumed he had hit the nail on the head tbh.
i think a lot of people jumped to that conclusion and it became a distraction from the actual issue.
well to be fair bernie had the chance to to say oops, it's a bug but 1% is still too high. instead he shit talked and downvoted, given that I think it's a reasonable conclusion to come to if you are not following this drama too closely.
Your next.
really... you aren't be every bit the bully you claim bernie is?
I'm exercising my right to post comments that you are downvoting and now you're making threats?
You really do show yourself to be an F'ing asshole
if you care about the platform do something about this abuse...grumpy cat is gaming the reward pool
https://steemit.com/@checkthisout/transfers
Once my trades work well I will turn to steem and become a dolphin to upvote you. Haha, people who add value like you should be rewarded. One liners and bot armies should be down voted. It's like we are in a concentration camp. Ohh geeez.
Yo momma so fat... she doubles as the Hubble Telescope!
@Haejin, I truly love your content, but this high school drama bullshit posting war is wrecking your credibility, man. Flagging it is one thing but you don't need to respond to it. You need to take the high road.
Fight him by putting out the content we all came here to see.
Dont fight my friends. Instead support the minnow steemians.
haejin, i will support you and your work. your are awesome. keep on running!!!
Wow. What is going on here? Did I miss something? You know guys, there are two types of people; educated and uneducated. I won't point at anyone, we're all free to decide who's in which group. But let me tell you something, being constantly envious of someone without giving any consideration on what the other one has and how he got it will not help to get access to the 'educated club'. However, it gives free tickets to the other club where close, similar minded friends are also invited. The problem is that, this club is rather just a box where all you can achieve is to be stuck. Now talking to a box where there's nothing inside cannot solve any issues, it's like talking to a wall, it won't listen but hears everything.
Unfortunately, changing the the perception of those in the box is almost impossible, focusing on being out of the box is possible. Therefore I won't negatively judge anyone, first because it's not my job, second, I don't like talking to the wall. But I will show my appreciation to those being here to give value, and @haejin is one of them.
Are you on your Periods ?
good job @berniesanders
If you cheer a liar and fabricator of false evidence, then you're no better! https://steemit.com/steem/@pawsdog/the-curious-case-of-the-errant-comma-haejin-berniesanders
Oh and he's jealous you have doubled your followers in a week to 7000 and he's only got 5.3k. You're doing something right brother.
let those go. they dont deserve any comments. keep up your awesome work!
I agree with comments above.. You don´t need to go down to their level and waste your time and energy on these childish fools. DON´T LET THEM GET TO YOU!
You are gifted. Much gratitude to you for sharing your insights and knowledge!
Thank you!
speeder (25)in haejin • 2 minutes ago
Haejin, It's time to get back work.
Put aside this diversion and go back to what you excel. You're better than all of this. Your efforts are much needed. Thank you.
and you're choosing to ignore the facts yourself
https://steemit.com/steem/@dragosroua/steem-supply-update-removed-ads-interface-cleanup-bug-fixing
not the first time this link has been brought to your attention. glass houses dude
yes, a bug ! ahahah ! of course! Believe it! ahahahah , with a wrong math and a blurry image, a bug! ahahah. Believe it! What a sad story. All that messy story sucks, I'll leave steemit, is a loosing project if the developers don't fix this kind of problems.
so first of all, @berniesanders didn't produce the image and secondly it was the developer of the site/tool where the information came from who reported the bug.
So, are you saying you are calling the developer of tool a liar? Why exactly would he lie and let people think his tool wasn't working properly? People need to have faith in the tool or he might as well just take it down. That would be suicide to lie about.
Who know who is lying and for what in this story. You know for sure? would you be willing to put your hand on the fire? People lie for nonsense, so imagine how much they can lie for money. I think that berniesanders could be lying, or the developer according or not with him, or haejin or some others supporters. This story is the worst ever seen on steemit and if cases like this could happens , there may be other cases like this in the future and is just a proof that the something on this platform is wrong and should be immediately changed by the developers. The fault of all this mess is theirs, because they must not allow it to happen
I've often found some find it convenient to impugn the integrity of others. The developer, who is also a witness, could have chose to sit back and let bernie take the heat. Instead he had the integrity to speak up and clear the air. You choose not to believe the guy who has a solid rep on the platform, that is your choice.
it's a decentralized system the developers don't control what goes on. the idea is to have mechanisms which allow the community to self-police. One of those mechanisms is when whales negate excessive rewards to keep the reward pool more evenly distributed.
the biggest problem here is that too many people are failing to understand how the system works and are expecting that some higher authority will step in and change it all. There isn't a higher authority.
There has to be willingness on the part of the participants to hear and understand how the system works.
I made the same mistake when I arrived. I thought that when there was controversy that the company would step in and resolve it eventually. Took me being told, there is no authority other than what the community accepts as standards.
This isn't the first time this sort of upset has occurred. It is the first time that a group of people are so slavishly encamped around one person and seemingly unwilling to learn how things work.
it's a decentralized system the developers don't control what goes on. the idea is to have mechanisms which allow the community to self-police.
the biggest problem here is that too many people are failing to understand how the system works and are expecting that some higher authority will step in and change it all. There isn't a higher authority.
There has to be willingness on the part of the participants to hear and understand how the system works.