RE: "Spiritual Drugs" Are Bullshit

[sixteen4narchist]

Calling bs on a spectrum of reality altering drugs is a bit much? As no one claims they give you special powers, it gives you a higher conscience of yourself and expands your mind.

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[claritypavilion]

Mhm. Anyone claiming that people claim spiritiual "bullshit" is just not understanding what these people are talking about.
Through psychedelia, humans experience a deeper connection with themselves. You come out of the experience with a renewed sense of self. Ask anyone.

I'd like to have some examples and evidence from @kyriacos about the type of spiritual bullshit he has heard.
I can't really think of any.

Seems like Kyriacos is creating 2 false illusions here.

1. Sober normal life is just boring old suffering - NOT the intense explainable unexperience of being alive.
2. Users of psychedelics tend to be new-age spiritual proselytizers.

When really..

1. Sober normal life is a mixture of anything you perceive, you do not need drugs to see the insane magic of the world.
2. Most psychedelia users I've met and hung out with do NOT have some weird idea of their spiritual path. They do the substances because it's interesting to experience. It is something different and new.

[m1r0]

A beautifully well written comment.

[kyriacos]

it gives you a higher conscience of yourself and expands your mind.

I explain that is not "higher" or "lower" . just messes up with your perception much like alcohol does.

[thedecentralist1]

I enjoy reading opinions on this matter, i do not agree with most of what you have said and believe you have a somewhat cynical attitude. But regardless, if you compare psychedelics to alcohol, you are most definitely not educated about the reactions that take place in a humans body on either a psychedelic substance or alcohol. There is no comparison, and even though i agree on few things conveyed in this article, i believe that statement has no merit. I invite you to look up the many studies that have been released recently detailing the profound psychiatric implications psychedelic substances carry, and to maybe re asses, at the very least that specific statement. This is obviously not a scientific paper you have wrote and carries alot of personal emotion within it, but that statement is simply not true. And also, there are political reasons that these substances are illegal, and remain illegal. It is not cocaine or heroin, and these substances procure a potential to enhance the sense and broaden the brains capacity for connectivity. If you feel that statement is simply not true, this has been proven in laboratory settings, in double blind studies.
Have a wonderful day and thank you for the article! Much love

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i would love to debate this topic sometime, i like your point of view, even though i am in disagreement with much of it, it was a good read!