I'm going to be controversial...
"Hitler might have his own statues throughout European cities in 1000 years from now, while the Holocaust will be totally erased from history"
I hardly think that the Holocaust will be erased from history.
As to statues of Hitler a thousand years from now, why not (well, not everywhere, of course)? History is history - statues are not just for celebration. It is important to see these things in a historical light. In fact, in a thousand years time, people might look at a statue of Hitler and say, "Of course that happened, because......".
The world was a completely different place 75 years ago and we have different values now. In the past, even though people may pretend otherwise, human lives really did not matter.
In the past, Britain had an empire and people were brutally killed in wars and uprisings, etc. Does this mean that we should not have statues of past British Prime Ministers? My personal view is no. History is history and it makes us what we are today.
I don't agree.
I think until the issue is relevant, it should be presented in a way to highlight the immorality of it. So for instance Nazism is still relevant, you have Neo-Nazi marches in Greece and Latvia. You have neo-nazi websites and forums on the internet. And you have an increasing police state in the USA and the EU.
I think the issue of Nazism is still very relevant unfortunately. And until it's relevant, it should be fought.
After it doesn't become relevant, the worst thing you can do is to resurrect it. So you should not give Hitler the pleasure of having an infamy. He should not have any fame in 1000 years from now.
By then hopefully the society will be free and advanced, and there will be no chance of another Nazi resurrection. So there will be no point in obsessing with the Nazis afterwards.
But unfortunately Nazism is still relevant, after all these years, people have not learned from their mistakes. So the ghost of Hitler is still haunting us, via Godwin Law
And you think that's because of Hitler? In my view, it's more a sign of social injustice and inequality problems in society (No, I don't mean the social justice warrior type of stuff. I mean the basic fabric of society). Anyway, my point was talking about 1000 years from now. The point about the British (I am British) is that, as the writer of the post said, history is written by the victors. For me, the bombing of Iraq by the leaders of the world was also horrific, but I can guarantee that those leaders
No. Whether the injustice was there or not is irrelevant. Hitler was basically like your average conmen, trying to gain power by pandering to those emotions,nationalism,racism prevalent at that time.
He played the masses emotionally, but the system of control was already set up for him hundreds of years ago.
I mean the only thing he needed to do was to beat up a few journalists who criticized him, and win an election.
So how could have those atrocities happened? Well, blame the centralized political control. Germany had transitioned from a militaristic ultra-nationalist empire into an aristocratic democracy where you had basically military generals as president and MP's.
So it wasn't really that hard to do what he did, he already had the full power system at his knee.
The same thing goes on today. All these wars and tyranny. Nobody held a referendum to ask the population what they thought about it. They just went on and did it.
So it's the centralized forces that are feeding the tyranny. And every tyrant just used it to further his own will.
"And you think that's because of Hitler?"
I think you misread my reply. I was speaking in the present tense.
So are you referring to the Neo-Nazi marches? Well it had to do with Hitler.
Because if Hitler had not existed, then maybe people would actually found the solutions to those problems, instead of this rabid racial hate and eugenics mentality.
Most of these Neo-Nazi marches happen due to an anti-immigrant sentiment.
Ok so then end the welfare system. I can understand that people resent those that come and steal resources. But after it is ended, there will be no reason to be racist.
I mean an african doctor is just as good as a chinese doctor, if he is a good doctor.
But a chinese street rioter is just as bad as a muslim street rioter or an african one.
So I would just dismantle the welfare system, most of it.
And if they had any brains they would do this, instead of just hating everyone. It's ok to hate a thief, but just unconditional hate based on skin color or ethnicity is bad.
"Because if Hitler had not existed, then maybe people would actually found the solutions to those problems, instead of this rabid racial hate and eugenics mentality."
That's a very big "maybe". Many people would say that WW2 made the world see that such wars should never happen again and has actually united people.
"I mean an african doctor is just as good as a chinese doctor, if he is a good doctor."
No, no, no. Culture and upbringing is very important. As an example, the doctors in Slovakia are very well educated, but some of them are arrogant and downright abusive towards their patients (foreigners don't generally see this because doctors grovel to rich English speakers).
The welfare system? That is one of the things delaying my return to the UK. As an Expat, I will have no right to state resources, but will have to pay the higher prices generated by the welfare system - higher rents, council tax, etc.
Dismantle the welfare system? That's a big one!