Why did artists in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance paint flying disks and men crossing the sky in what appear to be flying machines?
Were they surreptitiously trying to relay a message that may well have got them charged with heresy by Church leaders? If so what is the message? Could they be trying telling us that we are not alone and never have been?
Were they trying to tell a slightly different story to the one told by the Church, one that involved visitations from other worldly beings?
If it was one or even two paintings I would put it down as just a funny quirk of the artists however there are a surprising amount of paintings with what appear to be UFO's.
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Pt5 UFO's in Religious Paintings.
I don't normally delve too deeply into UFO and Alien themes in my posts on Steemit however the subject of 'flying saucers' in religious art work especially Renaissance art has fascinated me since I saw this painting many years ago.
It's called Battesimo di Cristo (Baptism of Christ) and it was painted by Dutch artist Aert de Gelder in 1710.
In the foreground of a hilly landscape, Christ is baptised by St. John, amid a circle of onlookers. The two figures are brilliantly lit by rays from the disk high above, against general darkness.
I remember thinking "What the hell is that!?
The guy clearly had artistic talent, if he was trying to paint a star or the sun I'm fairly sure it would look like one or the other. Does it look like the Sun or a Star to you?
As I stated at the beginning though there are quite a few painting that raise an eyebrow, funnily enough once I decided to write a post on the subject I noticed that some of the mainstream newspapers had reported on this subject. Although predictably they roled out 'experts' to debunk the spacecraft theories with some frankly ludicrous explanations.
The following article from the sun.co.uk is a case in point.
This painting is called The Madonna with Saint Giovannino, it's. 15th century painting by Domenico Ghirlanaio which currently hangs in the Palazzo Vecchio in Florence, Italy.
Let's take a look at the mainstream explanation......
A man, possibly a shepherd, and what appears to his dog are seen looking up at the sky, as a flashing disc-shaped UFO is depicted in the background.
The close up is at the top of the post.
It is claimed that many paintings of this era feature illuminated clouds which shine divine lights, and that the biblical symbolism has been misinterpreted.
A cloud eh!?
I'm fairly confident that if Ghirlanaio had wanted to paint an illuminated cloud he would have done, I'm sorry, I don't buy it, that's not a cloud. In isolation the painting is an anomaly but as I said before there are more....
Below is The Annunciation of Saint Emidius, painted in 1486 by Carlo Crivelli. This is interesting as the beam from the 'cloud' is seen to penetrate the head of the Virgin Mary.
Regarding this fascinating painting the article states...
This is an altar piece painted by Italian artist Carlo Crivelli celebrating the announcement by the angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary that she would become mother of Jesus.
Theories suggest the halo of the Holy Spirit, depicted in the top left shining down a beam of light, is actually a UFO.
Another explanation says the object is a circle of clouds which features small angels and represents the Holy Spirit descending towards the Virgin Mary.
So more clouds! The golden rings within the 'cloud' interest me here as they do make it look like a craft of some kind.
Earlier in the article it states...
Internet sleuths believe some religious paintings are proof that intelligent lifeforms and flying saucers have been witnessed by ancient societies.
The paintings were created centuries before air travel was even possible.
But art historians insist there's a more simple explanation, arguing what could appear to be UFOs actually represent angels or the sun and moon.
The Sun and the Moon eh? Let's take a look at some of the representations these so called historians consider to be of the Sun and the Moon....
This is a fresco found in Svetishoveli Cathedral in Mtskheta, Georgia.
A 17th century fresco of the crucifixion which can be found in the Svetishoveli Cathedral in Mtskheta, Georgia. Two saucer shaped craft appear on either side of Christ.
Art historians have reportedly said these to be representational of angels watching the event, or the moon and the sun.
But during this period of Byzantine art, angels were depicted with wings and halos.
So even The Sun, a poor excuse of a newspaper doesn't buy these are representing Angels. As far as being classed as the Sun and Moon it's laughable!
What they look like is flying saucers as insane as it sounds. it's hard to argue. Although a freind of mine did suggest they could be jellyfish! I'll leave you to ponder that gem.
Continuing with the Sun, Moon and Angel theme.....
The painting above is the Crucixion of Christ, let's take a look at what the article and the experts say....
This wall mural, or fresco, from 1350 by an unknown artist can be found in the Visoki Decani Monestary in Kosovo, Serbia.
Two odd-looking objects with 'pilots' can be seen in the sky on both sides of Jesus.
“As odd as the details in the upper left and right sections of the Kosovo fresco may seem to modern eyes, they, in fact, refer to something readily familiar: the sun and the moon,” Dennis Geronimus, associate professor of Italian Renaissance at New York University, told the Huffington Post.
“None of these painted details amount to early modern UFO sightings, which isn’t to say that the Kosovo muralist’s or Carlo Crivelli’s contemporary audiences did not believe in otherworldly beings or supernatural events.”
I have a number of issues with this explanation....
- If they represent the sun and the moon why aren't they round?
- Why do they appear to be flying across the sky?
- Why do they have a pilot?
- How can anyone presume to know what an 'unknown' artist was trying to depict?
Personally I believe the so called experts are clutching at straws with their explanations. All of the artworks shown here were created by artists who were clearly very talented. I see no reason why they would depict the Sun, the Moon or Angels as spacecraft or flying saucers or whatever you want to call them when they could just draw the Sun and Moon as we see it and Angels in the traditional sense, people with wings.
Here's a thought...
Maybe history is looking at the Angel phenomenon backwards. Maybe they were people who flew in crafts but they've been represented throughout history as winged beings as that was the only frame of reference people in the past had to explain men and women who could fly?
Last but not least is this painting....
This painting is called Glorification of the Eucharist by Ventura Salimbeni painted in 1600.
Lets see what explanation is given for this....
This work from the 16th century by Italian artist Ventura Salimbeni features God and Jesus presiding over the universe.
But sitting between the Holy Father and the Son of God, theorists say a mysterious metal object bears an uncanny resemblance to Russian spaceship Sputnik.
The picture was painted 357 years before the launch of the orbital object – which was the first man-made body to fly into space.
YouTube channel Strange Mysteries made the incredible biblical revelation, reports the Daily Star.
Their video claimed: "This just looks a little bit too uncanny for symbolic reference.
"If the sphere is said to represent the universe, why did the painter not include any stars or other celestial objects?"
Here is the video for those who are interested.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ypXIuLSErR0
Video length 12:07
Here's another thought...
Could the artist be trying to relay the message the Jesus and God are watching from above, not in the traditional omnipident sense but literally through a satellite link?!
There are other paintings with weird depictions of 'anomalies' in the sky that pose similar questions. This is a mystery I doubt will ever be unraveled such is the passage of time, the unknown artists and mainstream academics steadfast view that there is 'nothing to see here'. It's a shame though because I find these depictions fascinating and personally doubt that those of faith would feel any different if they were ever proven to be true depictions of events.
My personal interpretation of faith is belief in a higher being watching over us regardless of whichever religion you chose to follow, or indeed if you chose not to follow a particular religion the interpretation of faith still stands.
Hey my friend, another excellent post .. I so enjoy sitting down and immersing myself in your world of mystery and after a busy few days, it's just the tonic I needed!! Personally, I think this relates to the astrological foundation of the first (pre-Atlantian) religion/science. Fragments of this knowledge have followed us through history and remained hidden within secret societies and it has been re-interpreted (often devolved into it's dark duality) several times within our current timeline. As you know this imagery can also be found in many ancient tablets and carvings.
This hidden knowledge/science has attempted to rise several times throughout our history and so as a way to suppress, it's denigration has been built into many belief systems. I think these pictures are tipping a wink to the fact that many (relatively) modern religions have their roots in this very ancient belief system whilst at the same time proclaiming it as evil. Obviously they had to hide these connections in the paintings otherwise they would have been tortured and killed by the inquisition. Brilliant post as always @tremendospercy
Thanks mate.
An intelligent and insightful comment as ever my freind.
You're right regarding the attempts to revive hidden knowledge/science. Sadly the control mechanisms slap it back underground whether it be government or religious institutions only for it to rise again.
Hopefully the truth of our creation/existence/future will be revealed once and for all during our lifetimes. I'm sure it will be the most fantastic topic to study once it's out there for all to see. Those who came before us and failed in their endeavours to educate the masses deserve no less than our best efforts.
Superb post Brother Tremendospercy and this truly belongs at #steemchurch. Many of the themes you raise (connection between God and alien races), have already been raised by Brother @prime-cleric. This Knight has no doubt that our mighty and glorious God is responsible for the creation of much, much more than our Earth. This does not mean he loves us any less.
SIRKNIGHT
Thanks Brother @sirknight
I was reluctant to tag it #steemchurch as I didn't want to cause any offence, please feel free to link it if you want in one of you're own posts if you feel it worthy.
There are some fantastic posts connecting Gods and Aliens although I'm not sure if I saw @prime-cleric 's yet. I have seen others he has done. A great writer.
Thanks for your continuing support my freind.
TP.
Another epic edition of Mystery History, thanks Prof!! :) I love your lessons, I want to Believe! I want to believe that there is more to life than the rat race and these concrete cities!! <3 <3 Love you Bro.
Thanks babe, you're the best. Get your kids reading my posts babe. They'll be awesome conspiracy nuts in no time. 😉
amazing post my steemit friend wish you good luk thank you
I love this stuff. These paintings, and the drawings in caves in particular go back 1000s of years and clearly tell of a forgotten (or hidden) past in my opinion.
A cloud, really? I know you make a point of staying out of the religious aspects, but the lies/deceit around work like this are one of the reasons I'm not on these particular 'teams'.
Great stuff, looking forward to the next one!
Thanks Asher.
There are so many things hidden from us regarding our history.
Why? Are we not big enough to handle the truth?.
Could be that. I suspect things are hidden because 'power structures', which own certain books that are taken as gospel (heh) would dissolve in minutes if we knew all that is being hidden.
Jellyfish...no, wait. UFOs
I've looked at these before and can't decide if they are literal interpretations of what the artist meant, or representative of an idea - for example maybe shooting stars or messengers from God maybe? I don't know, but they are fascinating.
As always, great job Sir Percival.
Cheers Muxxy.
I guess that could be an interpretation of the ones with men sitting in them however I'm not convinced.
Obviously the artist weren't painting events they witnessed however there were a number of secret societies especially during the Renaissance that tried to disseminate information that church leaders had deemed heretical.
Who knows mate, it's a fantastic mystery though and one that will be debated for a long time no doubt.
Instantly reminded me of this footage of the supposed space-x launch not long ago.
Here's the article
I think there so much we are not being told about. Or maybe we are told, we just don't want to hear the truth.
Thanks for that mate, that's a brilliant comparison.
I think you're right in a sense, all the evidence is out there. It just needs to be deciphered by those who chose to investigate.
Synchronicity is always there for those who have eyes to see,
Carl Jung said that. I think it resonates very deep.
Thanks for that quote .. i hadn't heard it ?? - ))
and .. i am 100% on the SYNCH-TRAIN .. especially these days - ))
lovelovelove )))
greb'Z )
Have wonders unfold on their own on your path!
You are great and you know that!
Yeah there are many strange things hidden in paintings its true, tremedospercy ! But then I dont think you and I will be much surprised if one day God arrives here in his Spaceship eh ?? ) Very nice and interesting post as always my good friend !!
Nothing surprises me anymore buddy.
That would be a pretty awesome event though!
Thanks for reading and commenting dude.
They definitely knew more about the world back then than we are lead to believe now.
Good work pal.
Thanks bud.
You're dead right mate, there is plenty of evidence suggesting something extraordinary took place in the past.
Great collection of examples! I’ve looked into this “phenomenon” before but it’s nice to see it laid out so clearly. I’m a firm believer that if our calculations about the size of the universe are anything close to accurate than it’d be illogical not to think there are other forms of life scattered through the the innumerable planets. Long throughout the history of man there have been many references to beings or persons from the sky and I think it’s only in recent history that beliefe in such things has been frowned upon.
That's very true, it's only recently that the subject of alien visitations have been considered a 'theory'.
I think if human technology ages is repeating and repeating. When at the most modern technology age, a while later, destroyed and start over to non-digital age which its technology retained from the predecessor who survives from the disaster.
There is a scientist said, if Noah communicating to his son using phone to tell the incoming big flood disaster. The link: https://www.google.co.id/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-academic-claims-prophet-noah-used-cell-phone-to-call-his-son-before-flood-125380&ved=2ahUKEwiz6qvj4P_YAhWFE5QKHVSvAOUQFjABegQIExAB&usg=AOvVaw1kJsdbb_9js-juQcXyYnlw
The proof if long ago has modern technologies is ancient megastructures.
Source: infocobuild.com
Ancient megastructures is proof of complex technology of the past, which at this age, cannot built such complex structures as fast as the past can. You can see, how detail the image carved on Angkor Wat and Old Egyptian scripts. Looks like those things drawn using an advanced 3D printing technology.
Have you heard about Black Knight satellite? That's another proof of ancient technology.
You're right my freind. So many ancient structures have encoded messages.
I have heard of the Black Knight Satellite however I've not really researched it yet.
Yes, artists, much like writers depicted things the way they saw them and understood them.
Again, one has to wonder, How there are so many "coincidences" when it comes to certain topics.
I recall reading that the ancient writing when depicting "demons" were in fact describing "aliens". When I thought about it, it could very well be that back in the day when there weren't any words to describe UFOs and Aliens, that they were seen to be as "demons", hence this then made a lot of sense to me.
Again, understanding what the artists and writers were trying to relay to us is what remains a mystery, "the generation gap" as we like to call it plays a major role in deciphering and understanding things.
Excellent post mate, fully enjoyed the read.
Thanks mate, here is a good example of a painting that has a demon but many believe it is an alien.
As far as I'm concerned they're one and the same.
Really cool painting - thanks for sharing. I think this is an incredibly interesting hypothesis, but have this question from it: "Where did they go and why don't we see these demons and angels anymore?"
tremondos picks up the bat, the ball is pitched fast and wide, Tremendos swings & smashes the ball out of the park. Superb post. (a couple of these a day and all that jazz = bye bye day job) :-)
Truly a painter is not just a painter .. creative and creator of the idea
I liked this video thanks
You're welcome buddy.
Such a great post. I have seen many Orthodox Christian murals with a ufo in the background. Also cave murals from Australia. We are very obviously not alone;). It would have been a waste of space if it was just us;).
Agreed, all that universe and just us!? Yeah right.
Suuuper relevant Lil Dicky video:
I don't know how the doubters explain those paintings. Clearly those are people flying in machines great post
Thanks dude.
I always knew UFO's are hard core reality! Even many years ago I had my close UFO experience. (I will describe it soon when buy PC and that is coming soon)
I look forward to it mate.
Conspiracy theory and art in one post? Sign me up!
Your posts are informative, entertaining and absolutely terrific.
I live in México. Our ancient art has several examples of this same mysterious "addons".
Something really old and really fascinating moves around us. Among us. I am sure we will discover the truth, someday.
That was an absolutely fascinating read and then the video at the end was wonderful to watch as well. Thank you for providing such stimulating content. I look forward to reading much more from you.
You're welcome, thank you for the kind words.
Fascinating read. Thanks for posting!
Are you by chance familiar with the Magoniax Project and Wonders in the Sky?
http://jacquesvallee.net/wonders_in_the_sky.html
Thank you.
I haven't as a matter of fact.
Thanks for the link I'll check it out.
What a perfect description of the subject at hand.... Nice one
There is an amazing amount of pictures with UFO scenes. But the pictures are awesome.
Expectional post, thanks for sharing this informative and insightful post, i am glad i came across it
That was very good, you had a few that I don't recall seeing on Ancient Aliens.
This world is full of mystics and wonders. Thanks for your good works.
My guess would be:
Nice post @tremendospercy
Don't worry guys it's just a bird 😉
Thanks for posting! I’m interested in all sorts of medieval stuff, and I love a good medieval mystery. Nice photos.
interesting!
i leave a comment to not forget to read it later :)
(sometimes i regret there is no favorite /add to memories button in steemit)
@tremendospercy So far there has been no concrete evidence of UFOs. Most people still relate to it and fixate on the shape of a flying saucer, who knows when and who first connects the shape of a flying saucer with aliens. Looks like we do not rush to say that UFOs exist.
This got me so interested. Honestly speaking this world is full of mysterious things, things that we are being told don't exist, but there are so many proofs out there that the things that we don't think exist do exist in real life.. I feel like we as humans are being hidden from the real truth based on this ufos and many more other mythical things around us...
is very very interesting your post Congratulation!!
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https://steemit.com/religion/@boher/don-t-forget-my-teaching
Another good post. It's not that I don't believe in UFO's, but I'd like to see one in person, just to satisfy my curious mind.