Ah yes, back "in the old days" you had to sign up for every new blogging site. What a mess in the inbox. And with most hobby bloggers being bad admins, your data was bound to end up in some dark web database at some point for sure.
All that is gone when using Hive. Sign up once, use it for every blog on the chain and even for your own and if done right, more secure than trusting your information to a company or hobby admin. That is one benefit we need to communicate to the "outside world". Those big players X and facebook have it, too. But we can also earn a little bit and have (not starting a discussion on that topic!) some form of democracy here to govern the chain.
Before I forget, thanks to @slothlydoesit for tagging me in his comment to make me aware of this post.
I never heard of an engagement league. Sounds very interesting. And looking at @tengolotodo I see a lot of genuine excitement and comments coming from such an event/organisation. But I also see lot of people commenting for comment sake instead of really engaging with the content. That is where @topcomment comes in. Brand new and already engaged on a comment to this post. I think that one is going places and I'm very cursious to see it grow.
There is a lot of good content here on hive and a cup of tea for every tastebud I think. We just lack a proper search engine and/or integration/connection to something like google or similar. And for reading "our stuff" those not (yet) on the chain don't even have to sign up. They can even view it through different frontends.
One big obstacle for people to join is still the understanding of what is actually going on here. How can a blog be on a chain. Earning crypto for simply commenting/thumb-upping/posting? Too good to be true. Must be a scam!? These are just some of the misconceptions that mix as first thoughts when someone reads on Hive.
And then there is the mystery of the hype. I think you chose your title well. It might be @commentrewarder or it might not be. But you got a catching title line and for this posting I think it was the right choice and the cause for most of the comments. Before coming to a conclusion, try @commentrewarder a few more times on other posts as well to gather more statistical data. I'll do so myself with my next postings, curious about the result.
It's been a pleasure writing this, have a nice day and happy new year.
The @topcomment initiative looks rather promising, and I'd like to nominate the above comment for it!
I hadn't seen the topcomment system before, so I'm looking forward to seeing this new feature from the friendly moose in action. I already know he does a lot to share content and contrast throughout Hive, so I'm sure this will only further benefit Hive!
The comment-rewarded bot is interesting, although it can be easily abused, especially on 'giveaway' type posts. The same sort of thing happens with tipbots on Hive and, of course, auto voting is the bain of all things manual.
It's great to see more users being proactive in giving Hive a helping hand, let's hope it continues to encourage Hive and Hivians to be more engaging, and enticing for users, new and old
The @commentrewarder bot is really useful once you understand exactly how it works... in this case, I am mostly speaking to the potential for abuse.
The original poster is actually in charge of where the comment rewards go... it's not just automated. If I don't upvote a comment, it gets nothing. I might upvote a great comment with 50% or even 100%, a fair comment with 20% and a "barely qualifies" comment with 5%, and the bot allocates the amount to be distributed accordingly.
As much as anything, it was developed to help relatively new publishers with lower HivePower reward worthy comments. So if I only had 500 HP, and still voted according to the pattern outlined above the part allocated from the post rewards would be distributed the same... thereby bypassing the infamous "dust threshold."
Ah interesting, it would seem this method would eliminate some of the 'scam' potential and give the control to the post author. I've seen it being used more and more recently, I'll maybe need to join the club and give it a go. Don't want to be too quick, otherwise they might stop calling me sloth!
Thanks for the nomination. I've upvoted the comment 😊
Uh, thank you 😌
!HUG
Thanks to @slothlydoesit who nominated your comment ☺️
It's not only a bot, there is still a human component in there. As I understand it the bot part is just sifting through the block looking for comments with the potential of being a topcomment but the final decision is done by a human.
I was surprised by it a few days ago when I commented on a post and got such a reply.
Check out this comment conversation I had on last weeks curation report.
It's obvious you haven't already been around this block.
Your comment is upvoted by Topcomment
You can support the Topcomment initiative by delegating HP
| 10 HP | 25 HP | 50 HP | 100 HP | 250 HP | 500 HP | 1000 HP |
Greetings @hannes-stoffel, and thanks for the thoughtful comment!
I'm afraid you made it here after the @commentrewarder cutoff time, so all I can offer you is an upvote.
I have long thought it is a bit ironic that we have to promote the whole "Web 3.0" idea by using Web 2.0/2.5. And, much of the time, people don't really care. Everyone is so very used to things being super easy and they join 100's of places with a "sign in with Google/Facebook" and Hive is immediately at a disadvantage.
I think the "Curation and Engagement Leagues" were a bit before your time here... here's an example of the weekly results... it ran for many years, both on ST33M and subsequently here on Hive:
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@abh12345/the-hive-engagement-league-6tggzo
Asher — who was the driving force behind the leagues — created his own algorithm that was capable of distinguishing between useful and useless comments and rank users accordingly. What was also important was that there was HUMAN oversight, it wasn't just automated.
You are right about content discovery being a challenge here... even if all we had were a simple old-fashioned "tag cloud," it would be easier to navigate.
I believe both @commentrewarder and @topcomment are promising initiatives, and I am likely to make use of both more often in 2025. I particularly like that both were launched my long-time Hive evangelists who are active participants in the community, not just developers.
Ah, I don't worry about the cutoff. On comments I write as it flows, so to speak. I see that part more of a conversation and getting rewards for comments is really just the icing on the cake but not the actual intent. When I write a post, I put more thought into it, that I see as some kind of presentation, getting on stage and showing the work. That is where the reward system comes in. And the resulting conversation in the comments based around a topic I started myself. Which brings me to something I forgot in my first comment, was too busy in my head with what @slothlydoesit tagged me for.
Yes, I read posts before I cast a vote and set the weight accordingly. Although it does not matter much at the moment I still think it's prudent to do so right from the beginning to prepare for when my stake is higher. And to manage my mana. I comment when I have something to say. And when I think I have something of value to add to the topic or conversation it might even be a little bit more text.
I did not consider the "sign in with google" stuff. Yes, that makes it much easier. I use it myself more and more and it made me join a few sites I almost closed the browser window to avoid the hussle of signing up yet another account with yet another password to remember.
Why don't we build on that? Afaik Hive can be used as a sign on service. Even for a simple website. And keychain is also available for cellphones. Could be right next to the big players. Sign in with Google/Facebook/Hive.
Thanks for the link. That looked where thought through. Gonna take a deeper dive into the engagement league topic. Most burning question in my mind: Why did it stop?
Content discovery can also be achieved by others. If @slothlydoesit had not tagged me this conversation would most likely not have happened. I think that is another important thing here. The people we meet and interact with become a little bit familiar and like in real live someone taps you on the shoulder and says "hey, look at that"
With currently two (fairly) new initiatives for comments and engagement we're on a good way to get something going. I think they will spread fast and have a positive impact. And yes, as they come from deeply commited people there is a future in these.