Hi there Rarog, thanks for sharing your self intro post.
Sorry about a rather bumpy start on Hive for you, but hopefully you can appreciate that's because the community is so passionate about the platform and want to maintain its quality so it doesn't turn into a trash and milking machine for people.
You've probably also gotten quite a few suggestions about posting on Hive, what, how, where etc, the most important one about sourcing content 😀 but if you ever have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. We're here to support and retain users.
Hello,
Thank you for your visit. I appreciate all the help I am receiving here.
Nevertheless - if someone appoint himself guardian of the keys to community such as this one, should really have more help, to do its job properly. not blacklisted, although they really didn't proof that my post was plagiarism as such. And on the top of that they gave me downvote as a 'reprimand', not only under the post that allegedly was a plagiarism, but others also. Sorry, but that makes no sense at all.
More than that - it appears unjustified, and malicious.
I was said by @hivewatchers that I am
I have generated with AI.
They claimed to be Zdzislaw Beksinski pictures. I have clearly mention in my posts, that those pictures are AI-bot generated. So no, they are not stolen.
No, they are not Beksinski's paintings.I have attached screens about other matter they(@hivewatchers) pointed out - pictures that
If you are looking for plagiarism by just using google reverse image - that is poorly executed job, sorry. There are very many pictures made in Beksinski style, but it doesn't mean, they all are done by Beksinski. They should really see the difference between pictures 'like Beksinski' and his actual artworks.
I see, there are a lot of people here, that are very committed to what they are doing, and to what are they interested in, that's why I will do my best in matter of 'quality content'.
Thing is, if I see incompetence in such a fundamental matter, its really puts me off. I don't mind downvotes. I don't mind criticism. I welcome those.
In fact, that's why I came here in first place. I am doing something (leather working mostly) that I cannot objectively evaluate. Probably all people need some validation of their work, I am not so different in this matter :)
My regret is I haven't find your and Erikah posts beforenewbies tool guide post newbies guideSorry @livinguktaiwan for this outburst under your comment, it is nothing to do with you. In fact I really appreciate your support., plus only recently a came across account @Hive Beginners Tips.
To be frank, it is not easy to navigate Hive properly(by community standards), if you have other occupation(like day job, kids, sick relative).
I really think I was treated harshly, considering I am still a newbie.
Am I, right?
All this that has happened to you is really unfortunate, and with Hive being a decentralised platform, people work and act in different ways. Since there are no rules on Hive (it's decentralised) there are only community acceptable behaviors which may evolve over time, you may hear people say do this don't this every now and then. Community members move at different pace and work in different ways, as long as you steer away from the plagiarism (the biggest no go area on Hive) you will be ok.
With regards to this episode, I would suggest taking it to your stride. There is no authority here to judge right and wrong, but the community, in general, will always welcome and support new genuine and authentic users on Hive. Trust you will fall into this bucket.
As to support for newbies nowadays, tbh it's a lot better than when I started out 5 years ago, but then things were a bit wild west back then, leading to a lot of bad practices which the community has gradually ironed out now. It's not too late that you have come across all the available newbie content now, there's a lot to learn on Hive, but basically just enjoy yourself, and engage with others will be a very good start. The rest will follow 🙂
Thank you for your comment. It all make sense. Me being as I am - I can take it, and forget it,
but not all people have that in them.
Plus you say there is no right and wrong, but in the same time there are self appointed police here. Don't really know what to think about it.
Obviously - the happy medium would be the answer, but I don't think is possible to agree upon one way in such huge community.
You are clearly very experienced user, from what I see on your account you are super active in the community, and I imagine very busy person in the real life. I very much appreciate you taking the time to write such elaborate and clear answers.
Thank you very much. Hope this picture of Fatty will brighten your day!
I have no idea what you mean. We never admitted any wrongdoing. We clearly stated in our comment and in Discord that the evidence of the fraud is clear in the source that we provided.
As I already explained.
The fraud that you committed has nothing to do with the art images and we never claimed that this was the case. Neither does our comment under fraudulent post mention any images.
The source that we found is clear evidence of plagiarism that is not "potential".
Now we have discovered more similar fraud in the other article.
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Hello and welcome to Hive. Sorry that you had a run-in with hivewatchers so near the start. They can be a stickler for plagiarism and other things posted to the blockchain. Hope you got it sorted with them and that it does not turn you off Hive. I do believe they are trying to do what they think is best for the chain although sometimes they can get things incorrect and rub people up the wrong way. I believe it is because of the sheer volume of things they have to deal with. With all that said I am glad there is someone here to watch out for this sort of thing as they are really trying to protect creators like ourselves.
I love your leather work and look forward to seeing more. I have dabbled with it myself and as a material, I can see a lot of potential.
Hello, thank you very much!
Yeah, huge amount of content to check, no doubt. I had a little more time on my hands, and I was browsing throughout the content. Man... crazy. I haven't realized how bold people can be with plagiarism, it is really crazy I have to say. I get why watchers can be so harsh.
They didn't came back to me on discord, I have attached screenshot of last messages.
Busy they are indeed, I guess.
I definitely have to do post about Beksinski though. He is my all time favourite, and I would like to show people how to identify his pieces. He has so many copyists and people are using his name as a phrase creating stuff in AI bots. Good to know real deal, you know:)
Yeah, leather:) Requires real devotion, because it take time to learn techniques and all that, but it is really worth it! I have to learn to photograph stuff while I am working. I have never done that during work before. I am in the zone. But it is so great to see a progress after!
Hi there Rarog, thanks for sharing your self intro post.
Sorry about a rather bumpy start on Hive for you, but hopefully you can appreciate that's because the community is so passionate about the platform and want to maintain its quality so it doesn't turn into a trash and milking machine for people.
You've probably also gotten quite a few suggestions about posting on Hive, what, how, where etc, the most important one about sourcing content 😀 but if you ever have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. We're here to support and retain users.
Cheers
Hello,
Thank you for your visit. I appreciate all the help I am receiving here.
Nevertheless - if someone appoint himself guardian of the keys to community such as this one, should really have more help, to do its job properly.
not blacklisted, although they really didn't proof that my post was plagiarism as such. And on the top of that they gave me downvote as a 'reprimand', not only under the post that allegedly was a plagiarism, but others also. Sorry, but that makes no sense at all.
More than that - it appears unjustified, and malicious. I was said by @hivewatchers that I am
I have generated with AI.
They claimed to be Zdzislaw Beksinski pictures. I have clearly mention in my posts, that those pictures are AI-bot generated. So no, they are not stolen.
No, they are not Beksinski's paintings.I have attached screens about other matter they(@hivewatchers) pointed out - pictures that
If you are looking for plagiarism by just using google reverse image - that is poorly executed job, sorry. There are very many pictures made in Beksinski style, but it doesn't mean, they all are done by Beksinski. They should really see the difference between pictures 'like Beksinski' and his actual artworks.
I see, there are a lot of people here, that are very committed to what they are doing, and to what are they interested in, that's why I will do my best in matter of 'quality content'.
Thing is, if I see incompetence in such a fundamental matter, its really puts me off. I don't mind downvotes. I don't mind criticism. I welcome those.
In fact, that's why I came here in first place. I am doing something (leather working mostly) that I cannot objectively evaluate. Probably all people need some validation of their work, I am not so different in this matter :)
My regret is I haven't find your and Erikah posts beforenewbies tool guide post newbies guideSorry @livinguktaiwan for this outburst under your comment, it is nothing to do with you. In fact I really appreciate your support., plus only recently a came across account @Hive Beginners Tips.
To be frank, it is not easy to navigate Hive properly(by community standards), if you have other occupation(like day job, kids, sick relative).
I really think I was treated harshly, considering I am still a newbie.
Am I, right?
All this that has happened to you is really unfortunate, and with Hive being a decentralised platform, people work and act in different ways. Since there are no rules on Hive (it's decentralised) there are only community acceptable behaviors which may evolve over time, you may hear people say do this don't this every now and then. Community members move at different pace and work in different ways, as long as you steer away from the plagiarism (the biggest no go area on Hive) you will be ok.
With regards to this episode, I would suggest taking it to your stride. There is no authority here to judge right and wrong, but the community, in general, will always welcome and support new genuine and authentic users on Hive. Trust you will fall into this bucket.
As to support for newbies nowadays, tbh it's a lot better than when I started out 5 years ago, but then things were a bit wild west back then, leading to a lot of bad practices which the community has gradually ironed out now. It's not too late that you have come across all the available newbie content now, there's a lot to learn on Hive, but basically just enjoy yourself, and engage with others will be a very good start. The rest will follow 🙂
Thank you for your comment. It all make sense. Me being as I am - I can take it, and forget it,
but not all people have that in them.
Plus you say there is no right and wrong, but in the same time there are self appointed police here. Don't really know what to think about it.
Obviously - the happy medium would be the answer, but I don't think is possible to agree upon one way in such huge community.
You are clearly very experienced user, from what I see on your account you are super active in the community, and I imagine very busy person in the real life. I very much appreciate you taking the time to write such elaborate and clear answers.
Thank you very much. Hope this picture of Fatty will brighten your day!
As we explained already. We never mentioned any image plagiarism in our comment.
Please stop repeating misleading and false information.
We clearly provided evidence of plagiarism fraud in our comment.
https://hive.blog/hive-173575/@hivewatchers/rjtlej
I see there 'potential plagiarism', not confirmed.
About the pictures - I have attached screens form discord chat. That looks to me like clear accusation.
Unjustified as I proofed to you in my comments, and you actually admitted you are wrong, but on the discord, not here.
I have no idea what you mean. We never admitted any wrongdoing. We clearly stated in our comment and in Discord that the evidence of the fraud is clear in the source that we provided.
As I already explained.
The fraud that you committed has nothing to do with the art images and we never claimed that this was the case. Neither does our comment under fraudulent post mention any images.
The source that we found is clear evidence of plagiarism that is not "potential".
Now we have discovered more similar fraud in the other article.
https://hive.blog/hive-127788/@rarogart/beech-nuts-for-all-fans-of-foraging
This time, the account is blacklisted. @livinguktaiwan
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Welcome! This sounds pretty sympathic :)
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Hello and welcome to Hive. Sorry that you had a run-in with hivewatchers so near the start. They can be a stickler for plagiarism and other things posted to the blockchain. Hope you got it sorted with them and that it does not turn you off Hive. I do believe they are trying to do what they think is best for the chain although sometimes they can get things incorrect and rub people up the wrong way. I believe it is because of the sheer volume of things they have to deal with. With all that said I am glad there is someone here to watch out for this sort of thing as they are really trying to protect creators like ourselves.
I love your leather work and look forward to seeing more. I have dabbled with it myself and as a material, I can see a lot of potential.
Hello, thank you very much!
Yeah, huge amount of content to check, no doubt. I had a little more time on my hands, and I was browsing throughout the content. Man... crazy. I haven't realized how bold people can be with plagiarism, it is really crazy I have to say. I get why watchers can be so harsh.
They didn't came back to me on discord, I have attached screenshot of last messages.
Busy they are indeed, I guess.
I definitely have to do post about Beksinski though. He is my all time favourite, and I would like to show people how to identify his pieces. He has so many copyists and people are using his name as a phrase creating stuff in AI bots. Good to know real deal, you know:)
Yeah, leather:) Requires real devotion, because it take time to learn techniques and all that, but it is really worth it! I have to learn to photograph stuff while I am working. I have never done that during work before. I am in the zone. But it is so great to see a progress after!