Greetings prominent Hive people!
In case you missed it - @strategizer has an active DAO proposal to:
Accelerate Growth & to Empower Stakeholders With Actionable Intelligence.
Our plan is to gather/publish valuable market data and intelligence for the entire Hive community - assisting developers, entrepreneurs, investors, creators & literally everyone that votes.
We have received over 30% voting support in just a few days, which is great - but we need a lot more Hive Power behind the proposal before we can make a start. This is where you come in!
"How can detailed research help the community?"
... We hear you ask!
Thankyou, allow us to explain!
Those tasked with growing social apps online often have a difficult challenge ahead of them. They are competing in an ever changing landscape, against massively funded projects, so discerning the best strategy to take can be fraught with complexity. We need ways to access a broad spectrum of market/user research data and to also condense it into manageable/actionable chunks.
Analyzing the project's key audiences and markets should be an ongoing part of a successful tech project's marketing and growth operations - however, Hive has been lacking in this area. Despite the hard work of Hive's various marketing specialists, we have never seen full scale reporting on the market conditions that Hive and its dApps operate in.
.. Even when the DHF fund was used to pay for professional marketing services, this still wasn't done. How can we build and navigate without reliable maps?
We invite you to read through our revised proposal to provide this essential service to the entire Hive community - we already have support from many of the founders of key Hive projects, but we need more votes.. So please take 15 minutes to review and consider supporting our planned work!
To our mutual success!
The @strategizer team.
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... plus you!
Sorry for the notification spam - at least we aren't sending memos!
The worst thing you can do, so I hope this mass tag spam is your last one.
There is no reliable way to notify people on Hive or to know if people have been notified. The proposal system is an essential part of the infrastructure of Hive, so to me it's not a problem to notify or be notified in this way. Lots of work goes into the proposals and I now realise how little attention most of them receive, regardless of their merit. Sorry to have inconvenienced you.
Every tag spammer thinks they have a valid reason to do it. That doesn't mean they are right. You have inconvenienced pretty much everyone, not just me.
What if I don't want to be notified?
I say that is a choice many of us have. Just like I don't want to get spam phone calls and spam emails.
I consider this post and action a spam and I like to opt out please.
No problem, your opting-out is noted.
If you don't understand how the overall hive community sees this then there is nothing we can say to you.
Hi, I am the main person behind Strategizer. I have been using Steem/Hive since 2016, a couple of months after it went live. I have also been building, designing and marketing social software since 2006. We all have our own views and certainly not everyone agrees with you here, since we received more upvotes as a result of this notification that was sent out.
The largest, multi billion dollar social networks often bombard users with notifications that cannot be disabled in many cases. In my case, this is the first time in 7 years that I have sent a single mass tag and it is in the name of growing hive, following a multi week process of creating the proposal.
If a single notification bothers you more than no market research ever having been carried out for Hive, then there is nothing we can say to you! 😁
You probably did gain some votes, but you also lost a lot of votes. We already read your proposal the day it was created. We are very involved in all things Hive. We also understand that the overall perception of mass tagging is frowned upon and deemed spam. So, we uphold that value.
We are stating that this specific activity has pushed us to not back your proposal, and argue many others tagged that also read your proposal feel the same.
Ok, no problem, we all have our own views. I personally think that a single notification in a sea of notifications is an extremely petty reason to not support such a project - but so be it.
Never said that was the only reason. More the straw that broke the camel's back.
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I see this mass tagging as spam. If you don't understand that then I highly doubt you understand how to promote Hive. Just my two cents, but remove us from any tags and we will not be supporting any of your proposals.
Sure thing!
It's funny that some people find it very offensive to be tagged, imagine if one day they were on X(twitter)...
are people on twitter tagging you begging for money?
I hadn't thought about this point, I just thought that the proposal, as it is part of governance (funds from the dhf are being requested), people could give their opinion.
the way you pinged everyone prove you won't help hive
Hi, thanks for your comment. Can you clarify why you think it is wrong for us to use the only avenue available in order to better understand whether or not we need to keep our working schedule clear for the next few weeks? Do you think only rich people who don't need to work can help Hive? thanks
If you can't promote a simple post on hive in a way that is disturbing then how can you promote hive as a whole without just annoying people you will try to onboard. You should do a market reasearch on how hive work first.
Mass tagging isn't a gage of quality.
How can you seem a serious projet to do something that need serious (doing some deep market research) if you use such techniques like spam tags.
Since i'm a nice human, i will give you the best way to make it look more serious start doing some market research for "free" and let those first result show how well your project is.
Just my view that seem to be shared by some other users
A vote is currently underway to consider adding enforced notifications into Hive to ensure that all users are informed of DHF proposals. This would address the issue faced by all DHF proposers, which is that there is no way to know if their proposal has been considered by the community or not. Pushed notifications will at least ensure that people do not feel pressured to resort to tagging the community in order to gain their attention.
I can assure you that I did not send out tags because I particularly wanted to - however, since there was so little engagement, I had no way to measure the sentiment among most of the community.
I will also add that in the real world, people tend to accept that they can just ignore people who are handing out flyers in a social area. A notification is really little more than someone passing you on the street with a flyer. I personally receive hundreds of notifications per day across social media - most of which I am not interested in. I do not agree that a single notification for a potentially key proposal on Hive is really a problem for anyone, but I respect your difference of opinion - we are all unique.
Gauging the likely efficacy of a complex research project based on a single notification is not an optimal strategy, but each to their own!
this kinda shit it mean proposals like the lasslhe one will have big exposition and might get some votes from people not looking what they are voting.
I'm not hardcore for no notification but a lot of hive users don't use other socials at all for this reason, i simply don't like spam tag cuz then i get mentioned on giveaway i never asked to be tagged or things like that and it start to be more than just one dhf in a few time.
Would you trust a cure for cancer getting advertised in x.com with spammy tags ?
People pay for proposals, so it is not unreasonable that Hive notifies people that the proposal exists. I recommend creating your own proposal to find out how poor the current system is.
I have studied cancer and healing for over 20 years. It's a big topic. I don't suggest blindly trusting anything that anyone ever tells you about health topics - do your own research. You can't do your own research if you can't hear the people with relevant information. The free flow of information is paramount.
This would mean the proposal is an advert.
Dhf systeme is poor but for other reason, for example you can't downvote a proposal and dhf funded users don't have to prove where the funds go. + i won't make my proposal since i have no reason to do so atm.
Mostly when there are spamm pings on x.com there are just some fake giveaway, crypto scamms or flat earther. So no way i will look at there to find info about cancer.
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