About a week ago, Donald Trump announced the US would stop producing the penny (pictured at right). According to The US Mint, it costs 3.69 cents to mint a 1-cent coin. As of this post, according to coinflation.com, copper is $4.3443/lb and zinc $1.2895/lb, resulting in a melt value of $0.0075277 (about 75% of face value) per penny today. The rest of the cost is presumably other factors of production including dies, energy, labor, packaging, and distribution.
This isn't the first time the penny has been pressured by inflation. In the US, the 1909-1982 Cent was 95% copper, and those coins have a current melt value of $0.0287384 (287% of face value) resulting in the application of Gresham's Law. Both the 1909-1982 penny and the copper-plated zinc 1982-2025 penny have the same face value, but few knowingly spend the old ones. This isn't just because the "wheaties" from 1909-1958 (pictured below) have a neat wheat design on the reverse, but also because the coin is simply worth more as a commodity than the government says it is as a unit of exchange.
How broken is our monetary system when the penny is even experiencing these effects? It was bad enough when dimes and quarters were switched from 90% silver to cupro-nickel after 1964. During World War II, there was also a period where 1-cent coins were minted in steel because copper was demanded by the war effort, although that is a slightly different circumstance. 5-cent coins were minted in 35% silver due to demand for nickel and copper as well, resulting in a melt value well above half that of a contemporary 10-cent dime.
On one hand, the arguments for deprecating the penny make a measure of sense. Canada dropped their version of this coin entirely some years ago. It is expensive to produce and approaching obsolescence in commerce. On the other hand, it also requires the government to admit how much the dollar has been devalued since the Lincoln Cent was introduced. In 1909, there was no Federal Reserve system. the US dollar had been slightly deflationary, holding and often slightly even growing its value over time in spite of occasional "panics," Gilded Age shenanigans, and assorted wars. The biggest obstacle was the US Civil War with its ancillary monetary crimes.
Sound money was nonetheless a convenient scapegoat as people lobbied for more central control in response to real and perceived economic troubles, resulting in the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and the US government gradually transitioned from defining money as a weight of commodity metals into pure fiat. At every stage from the Great Depression to today, apologists for central banking and government regulation insist blame should fall on free market failure for some reason, but I suspect a penny in 1909 has something approaching the buying power of a dollar today.
This kind of comparison is difficult to make precisely, because the past 116 years have seen technological advancements in every single aspect of economic production. Goods common when my grandfather and the Lincoln Penny were born are unknown today. The Ford Model T had only been launched a year prior. That was also before home electrification and indoor plumbing were common. Steam power ruled the rails and the waves. The official CPI calculator says a dollar in 1909 is worth $34.68 today, but I think this is overly optimistic for the government's own admitted mismanagement of our money. My annotations in red point to just a few major incidents where government took advantage of its fiat money power to our detriment in the long term.
Even at that, if a penny then were only 35¢ in today's terms, there would be no reason to phase it out. We need sound money. We won't get that from government no matter who is in charge. Even in a best-case scenario where someone like Ron Paul were appointed to audit and reform the Federal Reserve, we still have a government addicted to debt and reliant upon buying votes through profligate spending on State-monopolized services while rewarding corporate cronies through easy lending and blatant subsidies. Taxation and tariffs are not enough to feed this ravenous system eager for expropriated wealth. Trump may drop the penny, but in truth, has the penny dropped?
A few weeks ago, I wrote about honest money vs. government money and the connection between weights of precious metal and inflation before the eventual shift to pure fiat. It is longer and in need of a few extra editing passes which may never happen, but relevant to the wider topic at hand.
Yeah they are in deep denial about that penny. Lol
In South Africa in my timeI has seen a R5 banknote disappear. It became a coin.
For coins, I saw the 1c, 2c and 5c disappeared. They are talking about dropping 10c too and so on.
Our notes go R10, R20, R50, R100 and R200.
At least it's not Zimbabwe which has $10,000 Zim dollar notes 🤣🤣🤣🤣
A lot of us Canadians thought it'd be more... impactful... when we dropped the penny. It turned out to be mostly a non-issue. Very rarely do folks transact in cash, and when they do you just round up or down to the nearest 5c. So sometimes you'll technically pay less than someone buying with their bank debit/credit card, and sometimes you'll pay more (by a cent or two) and it all balances out more or less. It's been... god, at least a decade now without the penny and I've barely ever thought of it. We can still turn in old rolls of pennies to the bank if we desire, but I've got a few that I'm just going to hold onto until the kids are old lol.
I have a fair stack of Canadian change I've received over the years by mistake that I kept purely for novelty, some from before Queen Elizabeth II. One upon a time, the exchange rate between the US and Canadian dollar was based on US coinage being 90% silver and Canada at 80%. Now it floats arbitrarily, but Canada fell below the penny utility threshold first.
Over ten years ago, I was having a plant sale, and a friend of my mother's wanted a plant. I tried to give it to her, but she would not take it. Later that day she came back carrying a pillowcase with ten dollars worth of rolled pennies. She insisted I take them for the plant. I still have them in the pillowcase, They might not be worth that much in the future. LOL
Even if they're all post-'82, they're worth $10.
In other words, "a penny for your thoughts" isn't offering you very much, and if I give you "my two cents' worth" that's still basically nothing.
Five identical all-caps replies to recent comments I've made on unrelated posts does not speak well for your mental stability. Stop spamming. Stop projecting. Get help.
Ooh, a second song to serenade me? I'd be flattered if it weren't written by a robot. You're behaving like someone with an obsessive disorder.
Actually look at the posts I wrote on which you comment and for which you vote. I discuss a variety of topics from hobbies to economics to design and engineering. I comment on other posts with something actually relevant to those posts.
I downvote you because your behavior here is antisocial. Your behavior needs to change. You choose every day whether to engage with others or spam your rants. Choose better.