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RE: ✈️#911Truth Part 14: Building 7 Turning to Dust for Over 7 Hours (Fast Forward 45X Speed)

in MES 9/11 Truth4 years ago

Okay, just a couple points I can respond to.

First, concrete turning to dust doesn't somehow prevent steel doing something else. They're different materials that respond differently, specifically chemically differently in the presence of thermite.

Nothing reasonably proposed besides incendiary compounds like thermite provides the necessary heat to utterly destroy the tensile strength of the massive steel in the towers, and because it specifically reacts chemically with iron, concrete is not so affected. Ordinary explosives, or even exotic explosives, turned the concrete into dust, while the steel melted and burned.

Experts, while not gods, are experts because they have specific knowledge and experience, and that's what it took to drop the towers into their footprints. 9/11 was done by experts in demolitions.

I listen to experts, at least them as are trustworthy (which excludes them as appear on TV almost completely), because I am expert in almost nothing. I don't just accept what they say, but hear it and do my best to judge it rationally.

That's all ordinary folks can do.

You ask where are the pools of molten steel, but the images in the links and the commentaries discuss this. Generally, after they cooled sufficiently they were sent off to be recycled in Thailand or somewhere. At the time I was aware of the pools (they were in the news for weeks, and I knew burning desks and passports (a joke) didn't provide sufficient heat to create them.

I want to state here that I misinterpreted your responses to me as coming from someone denying 9/11 was a false flag terrorist attack and supporting the official conspiracy theory, which I felt obligated to refute.

I am comfortable disagreeing with you regarding technical details regarding the molten steel and concrete dust. I know there are myriad details reasonable people will never completely agree on regarding just what to have for lunch. How much disagreement has been made unavoidable by the deliberate coverup and destruction of the 9/11 crime scene?

As long as we are both aware 9/11 was a false flag terrorist attack that elements of the USG (and their allies and minions) committed against the American people to precipitate the police state here and permanent state of war in the ME, I am not interested in opposing you regarding technical details of the behaviour of the materials in the towers.

I may not agree on those details, but those aren't the important details that have compromised the security and felicity of America, and the people of the world through the actions of deranged terrorists.

If we agree on that, we agree on the important issue regarding 9/11.

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Thanks for sharing your views on 9/11. As for my view, the technical details are everything. 9/11 is about the suppression of free energy technology, holographic projection technology, and weather control technology. The non-existent thermite and non-existent explosives disinformation as well as the non-existent and irrelevant molten nonsense are just attempts to steer the truth movement into dead ends and make it easy for the mainstream media to debunk and laugh at.

 4 years ago  Reveal Comment

I am not calling you a liar but I do apologize for stating you were "making stuff up" (I have edited it out from my earlier messages).

I meant to state that what you and others call "molten steel" is not due to conventional heat, and likely isn't even steel; and doesn't even account for the towers turning to dust.

For example, AE911Truth makes the claim that an excavator was picking up "1200 degree C molten metal".

https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/faqs/365-faq-5-what-was-the-molten-metal-seen-pouring-out-of-the-south-tower-minutes-before-its-collapse

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Temperatures anywhere near that hot would've permanently damaged the excavator and prevent it from operating. The hydraulic fluid in the excavator is designed to operate at room temperature and while even below water boiling temperatures would damage the entire system.

https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/772/hydraulic-equipment-reliability

Hydraulic fluid temperatures above 82°C (180ºF) damage most seal compounds and accelerate oil degradation. A single overtemperature event of sufficient magnitude can permanently damage all the seals in an entire hydraulic system, resulting in numerous leaks.

The by-products of thermal degradation of the oil (soft particles) can cause reliability problems such as valve-spool stiction and filter clogging.

 4 years ago (edited) Reveal Comment

Are you serious or just willfully ignorant?

Not everything that glows is hot. And regardless, a few pieces of glowing metal does not turn the towers into dust.