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RE: The CryptoBrewMaster Debacle

@fraenk @schneidy @nathanpieters Do you guys think you might owe @derekrichardson an apology, or at least an acknowledgement that he was on to something now that @rollie1212 rugged us? First moved the CBM token off HIVE, sold a bunch of worthless "equipment" NFTs, then when nobody fell for his move to lure people to his centralized exchange, Cryptex24, he just gave up and walked away from the dumpster fire that was CryptoBrewMaster.

I also spent money on this game and promoted it to people, because I thought it was a really fun concept that I wanted to support the Hive ecosystem. I don't really care about the money, but am just really disappointed that the CBM team clearly were just trying to leech money off the community without adding anything of value, and pulled the rug when it got too difficult. Also disgusted with the sycophants who resorted to name calling and mockery when Derek raised legitimate concerns.

I was even voting for @cryptobrewmaster as a witness which really concerns me, and has made me put a lot more consideration into who I vote for, so I guess that's a good thing. I hope we've all learned something here and can be better in the future. Rollie, you have my condolences for the situation in your home country, but it still doesn't excuse the way you behaved here.

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Dang! Sorry to hear it went that way @robvector, but I can't say I'm surprised. Rollie is a scammer and unfortunately he's a pretty good one and is gonna run off with all his illegitimate gains from CBM now. And there's not really anything that can be done about it. I'm not expecting any apologies or acknowledgement from any of these people. I don't think honest and humble is really their style, although I am open to being proven wrong about that. Anyways, thank you so much for commenting and I wish you better luck with avoiding scams like this in the future. And hopefully some of our fellow Hive users will see what happened with CBM and will be able to use it as an opportunity to learn from it as well.

it's your opinion, ofc, you have a full right to express yourself in any way here, but you probably hardly can understand what investments were made for game creation, how much money were spent monthly for the dev team and infra. Game never earned anything specific from Hive, and saying that it didn't brought any value to the ecosystem - is really unfair.

Me being a co-founder and a guy that did marketing I wasn't in charge of the main investors ideas, that they implemented to switch the token off Hive Engine and other IMO not really cool ideas that started killing the game.

Maybe I'm unfairly assigning blame to you because you did a lot of the marketing; I thought you were the primary developer of the game.

I was a guy behind the idea which wasn't implemented the way I wanted from the start!

We had a game designer and a team of coders

I haven't written a line of code there

And yes my idea of bringing the whole beer industry to the Hive blockchain failed. Anyway I should say I tried my best.

fair enough then. Not every project can succeed; hope your next project goes better. Cheers.

Rugging - is the thing, when you create a scam, with only 1 option, to get huge money fast, take it and disappear, is that something you think we did?

As I said before, the money we get from sales weren't covering even the server costs(

rugging is when we buy NFTs for a game that's in development, then development stops and we're stuck holding useless NFTs. Which is exactly what happened with CryptoBrewMaster.

I'm not losing my shirt over it, obviously I didn't put in any money I didn't expect to lose, I'm just really disappointed that you guys didn't follow through with the game. I thought you had a great concept, great graphics, and were working out the kinks to make the game more fun and engaging.

I understand that bear markets are tough and developing any game, let alone a web3 game, is very challenging. But the fact is, you took our money and then bailed on the project. We were rugged.

Wether an intentional scam or just a blundering failure CBM most definitely did not bring value to the Hive ecosystem, so that claim is totally fair, and IMHO it not only didn't bring any value but was actually damaging. And not just damaging to the users that got screwed, but also giving Hive a bad reputation of having games that are scams or at best games that are so crappily constructed that they fail and everyone involved gets burned. Not a good look. But now by the looks of it you are powering down and cashing out your account as well as the CBM account so at this point you probably couldn't care less about the damage you caused. Personally I hope you sell all your Hive and leave and never come back. Hive is better off without losers like you screwing over our users. Wether intentionally or not.

Can’t say I feel anything. Lol