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RE: On Dead Man's Clothes & Coffee Cups, and Alternative Economies as Climate Action

in Natural Medicine3 years ago

I watched that programme just days ago. Quite the eye opener and it also gives us some conundrums. I wondered if the fact that the clothes are getting lower quality is down to our own more heightened awareness of textile waste; either because we are buying up more of our quality second hands in the op shops or because the pressure to be seen as more sustainable and not be sending to landfill means they are sending what would normally go to landfill the instead. Then if we stop sending it there, how many people would be put out of work in an already struggling economical situation?

Naturally the waste side needs to be dealt with on our end and not shipped abroad and really we shouldn't be over producing and wasting to the point that anything needs shipping abroad, but that's going to take away the ability of many of the poor there to earn a living, which is a saddening thought.

Anyway, I came across this article saying that the solution may be easier than we think. I'm in two minds about it as to whether I take hope from it or whether it's really not that simple. The gist is that it's just a case of turning to all renewable energy sources, or moving all in to dropping individual transport and going public transport. In many ways lots of countries are allay mobbing that way. I'm not sure what VIC is like, but SA is improving its public transport and going big into solar and wind. We're apparently already almost at a point of proving all renewable, just a few more tweaks to be made.

Yet recently a friend of hubby's has just been let go from his job in waste management, with the reason given that the landfill is full and they can't keep compacting the waste to go there (this could be just an excuse, however, as one of the management didn't get on with him, so I can't be sure how accurate that is). There is certainly a big drive to keep as much as possible out of landfill, however.

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 3 years ago  

the clothes are getting lower quality is down to our own more heightened awareness of textile waste; either because we are buying up more of our quality second hands in the op shops or because the pressure to be seen as more sustainable and not be sending to landfill means they are sending what would normally go to landfill the instead. Then if we stop sending it there, how many people would be put out of work in an already struggling economical situation?

That might be our story, but I don't believe it's the story of many. Think KMart and other cheap clothing retailers - I don't think people are buying second hand clothes, just cheap as shit clothes that we still take to the op shop or whatever and that ends up over there.

I didn't know it was a program also, I just read the article. Sad that many are losing their income over it - they're hardly turning a profit due to most of it being unsellable.

That article is both hopeful and easy to dismiss - I'm a bit jaded and cynical with our government.

Fuck me, I want to move to SA - I can't see much happening here. Everyone's complaining as their feed in tariffs for solar have been almost cut in half - that means our electricity bills going to be higher - meaning without batteries (unaffordable and not best tech at moment) solar panels are pointless economically (because household finances are important). But then it's HABITS that need to change - we should be running appliances in the daytime, but we're at work - I'm sitting down tonight with the washing machine and dishwasher manual to figure out how to set timers so they go on at midday instead of earlier in morning when I leave for work and the sun isn't out! Most times I do as I'm part time and often home by 2/leave a little later, but Jamie's in the habit of turning it on 'whenever'.

Public transport from my place to the surf/town? Excuse me whilst I roll around on the ground laughing.

 3 years ago  

Public transport from my place to the surf/town? Excuse me whilst I roll around on the ground laughing.

I'm not sure public transport will ever be able to be improved more in rural areas. Perhaps some train routes direct to the city, but I doubt anything going off to the coast would be considered. I live in the northern suburbs and currently they are electrifying the trains up this way, so transport to the city is actually worse than ever, catching multiple buses and hoping for no missed connections. In theory it should be improved once the work is all done and they may even extend the lines further north again. They are trying, though, which is something.

I don't think people are buying second hand clothes, just cheap as shit clothes that we still take to the op shop or whatever and that ends up over there.

True. When the cheapest clothes in the shops are cheaper than the op shops, there is something wrong. We've been here 13 years now and are only just throwing out some clothes from the UK, but we go through the clothes we've bought here within a couple of years, if we're lucky. The cheapest clothes here are admittedly cheaper than the cheapest in the UK, but even when you pay more they don't seem to be any better quality unless you're paying eye watering prices. Maybe that's why the shipments they got from the UK were better quality than those from Australia. 🤔

Anyway, I suspect there's a multitude of reasons why the quality of what this country is sending there has been dropping recently. Was the quality of cheaper clothes here ever any good?