Even if HUNDREDS of thousands were seeing adverse effects (and it is NOT that many, unless there are high localized concentrations for some reason), that is less than a hundredth of a percent of people recieving the vaccine
dude, the number of reported "injuries" in Europe is somewhere near half a million now. US crossed six digits a while ago. post-vax deaths up over 8x in US from normal. there are alot of different figures factoring into the equation...
even if there's less than 1% of those immediate risks - and still, nobody knows the long-term risks, though if they're anything like how the animal tests went with previous mRNA trials, it's not promising - it's still adding up to be significantly higher than the 0.0007% of death from CV someone my/your age actually has (which is probably even lower if we're in good health, taking proper care of our immune systems, supplementing with vitamin D, etc.)
to loudly decry that NOBODY should get this vaccine is irresponsible. People should have a choice, and the research SHOULD be done
Agreed. I never intended to imply that no one should get it. Though to be pushing it so aggressively on everyone - especially those of a younger age for whom it'd probably be less risky to simply get CV and develop natural immunity - is pretty fucking reckless, especially in consideration of the types of warning highly credible experts like Dr. Geert Van Den Bossche have been issuing on the potentially disastrous consequences of using the potentially useful tool in such an incorrect campaign as a one-size-fits-all strategy.
And sadly, it seems many have been making the choice driven by peer & cultural pressure, and the research that's been cast into public spotlight coming through the filters of those with invested interested whilst much addressing the risks has been aggressively censored.
I do appreciate the counterperspectives you've brought to the dialogue. T'is a valuable balance, as I confess, I've had biases which have tended to block out some of the good points you make.
All great points on the math of the risks involved. Regarding the reported 'injuries', from what I've seen here in the US (and I confess, I haven't looked closely) these numbers are beefed up by a lot of complaints of normal vaccine side effects, much like the numbers of COVID deaths were beefed up by adding in deaths that were very loosely connected to COVID infection.
Thank you for appreciating the counterspective. Too often in this world, outside ideas just make people defensive, and criticism is seen as a personal attack.
I would like to spend some more time praising the elegance and grace of that last comment, but it's late, and you seem pretty smart, so you probably already know how good it was 😁
Keep up the good work, I look forward to reading it!