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RE: What Does 100% Vaccination Look Like to Stop COVID? Look at HMS Queen Elizabeth

in Deep Dives4 years ago

Ok, so we need to state the fact - fully vaccinated does not mean perfectly protected. However, they all protect effectively against severe COVID onset requiring hospitalization. None of the sailors required hospitalization and the spread was limited to just over 100 of the 3,700 onboard. So, the vaccines work. Breakthrough cases will continue to happen but will become fewer and fewer as more people get vaccinated. The end is in sight but only if people get vaccinated.

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We need to state the fact that convids 19 is an utter scam, the test is useless and cycled incorrectly, so if course no body was severely sick, because they are healthy.

Unfortunately, don't think that's the reason. You are seeing this play out in Florida, right now. Healthy, unvaccinated, young adults make up the majority of those in ICU and dying. Tell them it's a scam.

The effectiveness of the jabs has reduced to 39% from Israeli studies.
It works initially but wears off quickly and becomes less effective as the virus mutates.

By contrast for anyone under 60 without 2 pre-existing conditions (ie 95% of the population) COVID-19 presents extremely low risk and getting it once while you are young and healthy will protect you for a long time - that's what Israeli studies are showing.

So jabbing should be focussed on the at risk and everyone else should just get on with their lives.

Mass jabbing has joined the list of other failed and ineffective policies like lockdowns and masks. These are the facts.

Agree, vaccinations should focus on the immunocompromised and elderly. That was specifically 39% effective against the Delta variant. Again, the shots are effective against symptomatic disease, you may still get COVID - especially with so many unvaccinated out there.

From the same article that states the "39% effectiveness..."

Covid-19 vaccine is just 39% effective in Israel where the delta variant is the dominant strain, but still provides strong protection against severe illness and hospitalization,...

...the two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data published Thursday.
CNBC - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

And yes, boosters may be required each year against the prevalent strain. Current studies suggest that getting COVID will potentially give you immunity from 5-8 months. But, you run the risk of other COVID complications, which are not fully understood yet.

If you can, get the vaccine even if you've had COVID.

"However, they all protect effectively against severe COVID onset requiring hospitalization."

You completely pulled that absurd statement out of nowhere. Setting aside how obviously manipulated the before vaccine to after vaccine data has been which takes ages to go through, the best protection against all flus/illnesses has been the opposite of what the lockdowns have created, ie. being outside, exercising, getting vit. D, and being happy around people you love.

"None of the sailors required hospitalization"

Right, because they're young people who are physically fit, and active getting sunlight, and have a sense of morale and purpose in their duties, the same types of things that prevented people from getting sick from Covid before the vaccine came out.

"and the spread was limited to just over 100 of the 3,700 onboard."

That's not the definition of a successful medical therapy. A 2.7% rate of ineffectiveness leaves room for mutations, and continual outbreaks. If that was any past disease establishment scientists had claimed a vaccine had eradicated, vaccine research and development would have stopped in the early 20th century.

If you 'read the room' lately of the msm/system figures proselytizing this new experimental injectable therapy, you'd know that it has been a total flop and they're in panic mode at this point. They wouldn't need mass social media censorship, constant MK ultra-tier programming the most lemming-like parts of the population against those who are skeptical, deplatforming of dissenting scientists, assassinating/attempting to assassinate no less than 5 leaders of developing countries who were refusing the vaccine, NOT covering the huge protests going on all over the world, some reaching a million people in the streets...

"The end is in sight but only if people get vaccinated."

Lmao the end will be when the subservient elite brown-nosing parrots shut up and wake up.

So, right from the article...

"Our crew are double vaccinated so you’ll be glad to know there is no serious effects on any of the crew”

Severe illness would have required a medivac.

And not because they were young and healthy. Just look at what's happening in Florida, right now. Young, healthy, unvaccinated adults are being admitted into the hospital and dying.

It was very successful. Again, not one scientist or doctor will tell you the vaccine will stop you from getting COVID. The vaccine will, however, decrease the likelihood of not getting it but most importantly it will allow you to fight off the disease and not requiring hospitalization.

<insert conspiracy drivel response, blah, blah blah...>

YES!!! We absolutely agree!

"The end is in sight but only if people get vaccinated."

You heard it here - get vaccinated to end the pandemic, it's what I've been saying all along.

Oh riiiight, I forgot, Ben Wallace the defence secretary is definitely a reliable source of information on this disease's effect on the wider population as he's performing fully transparent research, and he has no possible bias whatsoever. Lmao, holy fuck, people like you really do exist on a platform geared around dissident free speech?!?

I mean if Hive is really breaking into the mainstream if we're getting the most media/big-pharma brainwashed troglodytes on here now! You completely ignored and dismissed anything I said after that first point, and then even pulled out the all too predictable C-card. The funny thing with that is I haven't described any conspiracy, I have stated some easily demonstrable events, and because we all naturally apply Occam's Razor in our own minds, YOU are actually the one who concluded if what I said was true, there would have to be a conspiracy behind it!

Congratulations, you're on the first step to cleaning the media's feces off of your nose. Your whole response is just self-affirmed repetition of what you tell yourself in your own mind, none of which you can demonstrate, exactly what brainwashing looks like.

LOL, oh you mean I ignored the foaming at the mouth "constant MK ultra-tier programming[sic]" blathering. Oh, no, not at all. I had a super good laugh at the incoherent run-on of every conspiracy hook out there. [start sarcasm] but nothing to indicate that you've fallen into the conspiracy realm, my bad [end sarcasm].

The only thing that you have written that is true is:
"The end is in sight but only if people get vaccinated."

Sorry, I didn't realize HIVE was a platform geared around dissident free speech. How about a platform geared towards ensuring there is no censorship. For HIVE to be mainstream, accurate and correct information is just as relevant to free speech.... or is it not?

Except nothing I said is a conspiracy theory. Again, you're the one concluding a conspiracy theory based on information being stated. If you disagree with something you can just challenge its validity and then your detractor can come up with their evidence, but continually saying "conspiracy theory" is revealing you just take on the same media generated epithets like all lemmings do. It's quite telling that you do fit this 'type' when all you have is this bravado language when you still can't simply address my initial points (except the first).

"The only thing that you have written that is true is:"

It's called a quote... I was quoting you so you knew what I was responding to. Are you really that out of touch to claim things reported even in the mainstream news (smaller sites, or a sub-page article in the foreign events section of a more major site) is not true? Like I said, I pointed out just a few dots, you drew the lines and called it a conspiracy.

Yes, Hive is geared around dissident speech, but it's not the only thing that can be on it obviously. The initial conceptions for systems like Hive, or Signal the app, or anything else with varying degrees of uncensorability/privacy built into it is from people who are political dissidents. Tech is designed to solve solutions, and the solution to political/health/social censorship is platforms such as this.

People with views like yours coming here from reddit or whatever system approved site you scuttle over from are more than welcome, but you're no longer in an protected echo chamber. You're going to have try harder, and develop that frontal cortex a little more.

See there you go... What's wrong with the mainstream media?

Again, HIVE is not geared toward dissident speech. HIVE is a censorship-resistant social media platform. You need to get out from under your bubble in all things opposing free-speech - sorry connecting dots again (using that frontal cortex). There are many more people on here posting about Food, Travel, Sports, gaming and the actual politically oppressed individuals (which I'm glad they have a venue to do so) than there are your ilk.

Supporting misinformation, disseminating misinformation are the same thing and it is not a free speech or dissident issue. Insulting and calling people out for pointing out misinformation or hyped vote-bait is a little bit hypocritical... don't you think?

And that whole frontal cortex thing... you should give it a try exercising yours.