"Wounds Create Wisdom", that's how it is my friend, that's why it surprises me so much that some people don't seem to learn and stumble over the same stone, but in general in those moments where we hit rock bottom is where we begin to see everything more clearly and to value things that we didn't notice before. This is a great reflection, I am glad that you have coincided with that podcast and that this phrase even reached you, so thank you for sharing it with others, there is always someone listening and who needs to hear it (or read it)...
It's cool because we instinctively know this is the case, but when someone says it in a particular way such as this, it really has a different impact on us!
Hitting rock bottom sucks, but it's also when we can make the most meaningful change if we are capable of doing such a thing.
I'm glad that you related to this, as it is a topic that I think more people need to understand.