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RE: The Next Round

in Reflections3 months ago

I think what it all boils down to is going back to the decentralized nature of Hive. People can do what they want. If people want to extract everything or do mischievous things, they can do that, but they shouldn't be angry if people don't vote for them, or even downvote them. Those who have a lot of stake in Hive want to protect it and make Hive successful. If they think extractors are doing something unhealthy for Hive, they are within their rights to vote against those.

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What constitutes 'mischeivous' things?

they shouldn't be angry if people don't vote for them, or even downvote them

No one should be downvoted for taking their earnings on HIVE, unless it's tied up to other nefarious actions, but I think this needs defining more as there's a lot of people worried this week that they'll be penalized for taking some Hive out to buy bread or whatever!

What constitutes 'mischeivous' things?

This is different for everyone. For me, it can be fully AI generated posts, or plagiarized content to give a few examples. I don't really downvote people, and I'm not a whale for my votes to matter all that much though.

I agree with your second statement, and from the whale posts I've seen they're not really downvoting just for taking Hive out. What I did see is them limiting their votes to those that build their accounts; which they have every right to do.

Totally agree with the AI and plagiarism - been working hard in my community to curb that where I can with zero tolerance.

I'm still a little uncomfortable with whales only supporting people who don't power down. I know it's their right, but Im still uncertain it's the right thing to do, unless I'm missing something.

You can be supportive of the platform, but still power down when you need to and come back and build your vests when you can and are able. If whales don't support quality content from people engaging with the platform, then the earning off social media aspect of it seems dead to me.

Sure, penalize those milking the system and not putting ANYTHING back, but I'm a little fuzzy and unsure about what the big players are doing here.

I think it's a misunderstanding that whales only support those who don't power down. From Azircon's posts, there was the KE, which if it is too high means the account is most likely just an extractor. The whales are against those that just power down and don't build.

This is what the little accounts - or even the middle classes - need reassurance about b

No one should be downvoted for taking their earnings on HIVE,

I don't think it is necessarily for taking it off Hive. However, why would they be encouraged to keep earning on Hive? The downvote can limit their future extractions, especially if the content isn't overly good anyway.

especially if the content isn't overly good anyway.

Yeah sure, shit content, shit self interested players, etc - absolutely discourage.

But your average Hiver who is trying best, engaging, powers down a bit because they need it, comes back, curates, gets involved as best can - they need supporting as much as the person who invests and never powers down. Otherwise it feels elitist to me.

People can do what they want.

Yes, they can.

but they shouldn't be angry if people don't vote for them, or even downvote them.

Yet they are. I know one person recently who powered down because they got an unfollow from an account that used to support them. They went full spam too with low quality content. Pathetic.

If they think extractors are doing something unhealthy for Hive, they are within their rights to vote against those.

You are in the minority on this opinion. Welcome :)