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RE: This lockdown is eating into my creative!

in Anti-socialists5 years ago

Your version, the version taught to you intentionally by authority, of communism is not communism.
It is misdirection to keep you from finding your freedom.

You know the state has lied to you.
You know creating a bureaucracy is creating a state.
The opposite of communism.
Communism is people cooperating without a state.
Zomia.
When do you put down the koolaid and back away from the misinformation?
I've linked you the data many times.
I've shown you the door, but you go right back to the koolaid given to you by people you claim to know have lied to you about everything else, except this.
Smdh.

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Communism is people cooperating without a state.

...and how does that happen 'at scale', without administration of the system? i.e. - a bureaucracy?

Zomia.
When do you put down the koolaid and back away from the misinformation?

Misinformation?
How many primary sources have you spoken to, about that area?
(it's around 5 people I can think of, for myself)
As I've said, Iv'e talked to some of the people.
What about yourself?
So, on the assumption that my primary evidence carries far more legitimacy than your own, it would appear you discount evidence, if it doesn't support your theory.

(which always seems to be the template for anyone tying to argue for Communism)

So.... back to the big picture, please tell me how this admin works in your utopia, without a bureaucracy?
This is the precise point, as to the failure of the system at scale.

...and how does that happen 'at scale',

It might be more likely when your side stops bombing us back into submission.

Oaxaca, 1992.
Spain, 1936.
Ukraine, 1921.
Large scale uprisings bombed back into submission to the state.

Among others.
We have crapitalism because the thugs say we get crapitalism.

You will have to see the various models to see the how.
Each area will have its own unique culture.
How do you propose? Hierarchy? Bosses and wage slaves?

So, what, Lucy said good things about that region?

So you are now avoiding not telling me how you can have communism (at scale) without involving bureaucracy?

Forget theory (it's just theory). Tell me the nuts and bolts of how you implement communism without involving bureaucracy?

It think - finally - we've gotten to the nub of the issue...

You already agree that bureaucracy is state , is force.

(that shaky feeling you have inside is called the 'seeing the dawn'. Don't be frightened, I'm here for you... lol)

So... give it t me - the nuts and bolts of a system transcending continents, that requires no bureaucracy.
I'm waiting...lol

that region

...the people I've spoken to from the area, said it was not an easy place live in and was very hard, with little in the way of amenities or luxury, sporadic electricity (if any).
Poor sanitation and clean water facilities.(bad infrastructure)....this was years before mobiles phones, ( I spoke to them when I was near the Myanmar border - perhaps 6 years ago), so I can't comment on the internet.
Just your typical communist utopia, really..

Anyways, back to the nuts and bolts of a global world, without bureaucracy..

not telling me how you can have communism

But, I did tell you.
The people will figure it out for themselves.
Really, that is the only way to live without govt doing the thinking for you.
You, and your neighbors, will decide.

Simply ending rule by force would make this debate moot.
Then we could just do what we want without thugs forcing crapitalism on us.

I bet it is hard living outside crapitalism, without communism, anyways.
Without money nobody will help you, but still consider themselves a blessing to you for enlightening you to the joys of banksters enslavement.

Rojava is doing much better, but they are OK with some crapitalism, just not outside rulers.
Oaxaca got into line once the bombs fell on their wives and children.
All hail the Mexican air force!

The people will figure it out for themselves.
Really, that is the only way to live without govt doing the thinking for you.
You, and your neighbors, will decide
.

Exactly!!!!!!!!
It's called capitalism!
(exchange of goods/services in a free market with price discovery as the objective mechanism to find value).

You're advocating capitalism.
I'm glad about that.
( I had faith in your intelligence - now you just have to rid yourself of the preconceived ideas about crapitliasm and it having any connection to the real thing.)

Sound money makes the subject academic.
I said that a long time ago.

Absent banksters mucking it up money works almost as good as social standing.
Still, people load trucks, not cash.
Labor creates wealth, not capital.

Sound money makes the subject academic.

No...it doesn't.
Far from it. Sound money allows for free market capitalism.
There is no sound money in communism. (either by no money at all - or a controlled economy - either paradigms mean no efficient price discovery mechanism, thus making sound money a nonsensical concept)

Labor creates wealth, not capital.

Precisely so, and capital can aid in the efficiency of that labor to go onto bigger and better things.

Welcome!