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RE: Introducing Splinterlands Survival Mode

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You know they're in info stage right? You know they said they'll take input and see how it works out. If you are in the demographic of this mode then share some thoughts. They've changed modes based on DAO proposals and yet you seem to forget all this. Your reaction is disappointing. I expected more.

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I may have sound too harsh, but it comes from being absolutely frustrating for me (and I would say any human player) that after SIX YEARS bots are still allowed AND encouraged.

Similar to Wild format, any card in the game may be used (except for Gladiator cards without a Conscript Summoner or Ruleset), and the use of battle helpers and automation tools will be allowed as well

Similar to wild format, you'll be having real humans playing against advanced AI bots; just looking at leaderboards and battles in wild league, yu can probably have a way better idea than me on how many human players are there.

Is this what we want for the game? An idle game played by bots where we basically don't play and try to get an ROI on the assets we buy? Because that's what we have in wild league, the (by far!) funniest game mode, that is basically impossible to have fun playing with. I've lost count on how many times this subject was brought to discussion.

And again, seeing the clear intention of keeping this ethos on a new coming mode is frustrating, to say the least. As a real player, it's beyond my comprehension this way of thinking. Just my two cents.

I didn't even think of it as an idle bot game until y'all started talking about it. If you have the cards and are in the demographic speak up. What do the users want? I myself am not sure... i would enjoy playing survival mode and i for sure have the cards for it. BUT... i'm not a consistent game player in general. I play almost no computer games. I will do splinterlands in spurts. I do wish splinterlands had an idle game... but i didn't think survival mode would be a good idle game but i guess you're saying you think this game is a bot game. Why do you think it is?

I dont think it's a bot game, it IS a bot game, if you exclude modern. How many real players you would say that play regularly in wild league? It can be as idle as it gets: if you have the cards (and you don't even have to have maxed deck, nor nowhere near), you choose a bot, click a couple buttons: that's it. You stack rewards and forget Splinterlands exists until you want to cash something out. Any game that allows full automation is doomed to the same fate: a few human players, and the rest extractors. That's what is hapenning now in Wild, and what will happen in any future mode where bots are allowed.

We can all have different opinions, that's fine. For me, and I'm not a hardcore gamer, knowing that I'm not playing real humans takes all the fun away. And I would argue most humans, after a few loosing streaks battling bots, will likely be fed up.

As for speaking up: how much more? How many posts have been written by players saying modern mode was a breath of fresh air because finally bots were out? How many players has the game lost because of bots? How many players wrote full posts detailing why they were quitting the game/ botting and stopping any manual gaming because they had lost faith? It's crystal clear by now that the team is perfectly accepting the amount of current botting; why, I'll leave it for you to decide.

What I can't foresee is an influx of new players, given the current state. And truth be told, the team is doing a lot of good moves lately; unfortunately, most of them have the opposite effect if we're talking about new players. As a new player, is it appealing to know that you'll start playing a bot filled game if you want to try anything apart a SINGLE game mode? That you'll have to spend thousands in new cards every couple years or be relegated to playing against bots? Or that you can start the game and get trashed by maxed decks, or cards you have zero way to obtaining unless you are extremely lucky after months of gameplay (e.g. gladiators)?

So when you read "for fucks sake"... this is why. As a player, seeing an awesome game going this route is sad. Taunting the "New Player Experience" as the utmost priority and announcing a new game mode open for bots is just yet another decision that I just can't reason.

Sorry for the long answer; given how much you have given to the game, a thorough response was the minimum I could do. Cheers!