Democracy dies in silence

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Are you Engaged?

So I am going to be straight and to the point (not that I am otherwise at any given time!). There have been a lot of discussions around KE ratio. I am not going to link those discussion to clutter this post. People suddenly like it a lot! Excellent!! I am touched.

People also are critical to the effect and use of it. Nothing wrong with that. I designed it for curators; how you use it is up to you.

As I was reading some of those long discussion, what becomes clear is a point that KE only focus of earning and extraction. But hive is much more than that as a social network. What about engagement? Yeah sure! What about TARIFFS? Sorry, no no, let us not go there! What about plain vanilla ice cream? Yes, better.

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Ah!! Finally a plot with data! I love a controversy between 'us' vs 'them'! How, timely!

When former US President George W Bush said:

"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

I remember cringing and think OMG, what world we started living now. How can a US president start a 'us' vs ''them' campaign? That is how you destroy a civilization! I see how naive I was back then!! I hated Bush at the time. What would I not do today to get him back, compared to the choice I have currently! Sigh. Sorry I digress again!

The Plot

The first time I heard about "engagement at hive" is from Asher. He used to run a thing called Engagement League. It was tedious data manipulation and lot of it was manual.

The Hive Engagement League
This league is not based around financial rewards and relates to engagement on the Hive blockchain.

It stopped on Jun 26, 2023. I requested Ash to stop it.

Anyways, the way the above plot is constructed in extremely simple. Naturally, and this word is important, people write post, and comment on posts (even replies sometimes!) at hive. Blockchain records that data and it can be pulled using a query at beebalanced.

https://beebalanced.streamlit.app/custom_queries_page

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This returned be 4779 ACTIVE hive account over the last 6 months as per my definition. I don't care about account holding less than 10 HP for this discussion. I also don't care about accounts that post less than 10 or made less than 10 comments over last 6 months. They may be active, but they are not engaged.

Alright: the 4779 active hive accounts over the last 6 months looks like this below:

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Comment Ratio (CR) = Number of Comments (E2) /Number of posts (D2)
Reply Ratio (RR) = Number of Replies (F2) /Number of posts (D2)
Engagement Ration (ER) = =((((E2-D2)*2)+F2)/D2)

What ER does, it simply normalize the comments to your post frequency.

For most humans, their CR and RR is the same or very close. How do I know this? If I plot CR against RR, it will be straight line going through (0,0), (50,50), (100,100) etc. You can see that in the blue dots. ER also has a near constant relationship with C/R Ratios. It is about 2.0. Because remember the factor of 2, I used in the ER formula, it is that. Of course, these are generalizations. If everything is constant for everyone there was not reason to make the plots.

If someone just posts and doesn't comment, as curation program account (it is totally okay to do that), the ER of that account will be zero.

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According to this metric, let us take ocdb for example;

CR = 1.0
RR = 0.0
ER = 0.0

I want to repeat; for a curation program, this is a legitimate action.

List of Comment Spams

@ecoinstant wanted a list. A different list. He wanted a list of 'vote buyers', this is not that. This is just a list of top comment spams. I am not saying these spams get upvote or earn any money (sometimes they do) in all cases.

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These are top commenting accounts at hive. Yes, there are some humans there in the top 25. However, you can identify the bots, some even says 'bot' in their names :)

hivebuzz's CR = 3044; Comment/day = 642.7
taskmaster4450le CR = 274; Comment/day = 400.7

Are they engaged? LOL. Shit NO! They are just comment bots. Feel free to DV (if there is any rewards) and mute them. I do not think these comments or auto-notification provides any value to the blockchain. This is obviously my opinion. If you feel otherwise, that is your opinion.

What is human behavior in terms of comments?

In order to understand human behaviors, I will need a few benchmarks. Here benchmark only means folks that I know do not comment by using any automation. I know that I do not use any automation for posting and commenting. I personally know several others who doesn't. I am going to just choose people, who I know won't mind that I chose them non-randomly :)

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In addition I will also provide some range and averages of all 4779 active users.

ParameterCRRRERComments/day
Min1.00.00.00.1
Average8.26.921.33.1
Max3044.23043.19129.6642.7

Here is the plot of us "magnificent seven"! :) Give us a break, okay! Got to have some fun!

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So, we can see that we vary widely in terms of our commenting prowess, but we are all active hive users and we are all human. So I am going to say, it is not easy to do 1300 comments in 6 months! It is even harder to do 4200 comments in 6 months! Galen is superhuman to do 23 comments a day every day for 6 months! When you add, this is without any incentive, you may begin to appreciate the effort. I see bozz at 33.9 comments/day, melinda at 59.1 comments/day and wiseagent at 93.2/day. These are some of the highest numbers I have seen from some humans that I know as humans.

Why didn't I just use comments/day. For the superhumans their ER is lower because of post-normalization :) Giving them a bit of human distinction.

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There you have it. I had to draw some boundaries. Mind you, these boundaries are fuzzy. Most natural processes are fuzzy. You decide, if you are them. Good luck :)

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Yey, I think I understood that all! Definitely in the human part :-D Thank you so much for crawling through all that data and making it understandable!

I try to engage as much as possible, but I do have my favorites that I read and comment on - but as they don't post so much, I don't comment as much (and simultaneously do not spend too much time on the screen).

I would like to get more comments on my posts. I try to be a little controversial, but not even trolls respond... And even on a lot of my comments, I don't get replies (except for you, you ALWAYS reply and that is scary). But not giving up!

I would like to get more comments on my posts. I try to be a little controversial, but not even trolls respond.

Many moons ago a wonderful young lady said similar things to me.

Let’s see if she responds to this ping and maybe want to share her wisdom with you.

@tinabrezpike


first things first…his advice actually gave me some fresh ideas. Now, I see my articles differently... or how should I say it? With brand-new eyes!😂
I've been here for a while, but I did take a break for about a year (you know, life stuff), so I lost a bunch of followers and kinda forgot how to make a comeback. If you scroll through my posts, you'll see that some have barely any comments. Some articles are interesting, some aren’t. But hey, that’s just how it goes! And I write about everything 😂
Now, if you check my profile, you’ll notice I don’t have some crazy…high number of posts or comments. I’ve been here for a long time, yet I don’t have 20,000 comments or whatever. I think I’m at around 2,300? You know why? Because I don’t just comment for the sake of commenting. I refuse to spam “Hey, nice picture” or “Cool post” just to boost my numbers. That’s pointless. If you do that, people won’t take you seriously…they’ll just see you as someone trying to look important. I only comment when I actually have something to say. If I like a post, you will know because I’ll write a novel in the comment section. 😂
You can see my personality in my posts and comments. And yeah, I can be a little crazy... or as you put it, controversial😂 But that’s me! And people notice that. here’s a tip: If you want people to reply to your comments, ASK QUESTIONS. If they have to answer, they’ll write back. Simple! 😂 Also, a lot of people just give a vote on a posts without actually reading them, so they don't comment. Not because the content is boring, but maybe because the title isn’t catchy or the picture isn’t eye-grabbing. I got some advice that posts should be around 500 words, maybe a little more, but I try to keep mine under 900. People are busy…no one has time to read a novel-length post when there are a million other things to scroll through. Shorter is better💪 Oh, something interesting for you, this happened a few weeks ago or days? Who even knows anymore 😂Some guy kept commenting on my posts, but it was obvious he wasn’t reading them. I wrote about my dog being sick, and his comment? "Nice picture. “EXCUSE ME? The post was literally about something sad, and all he says is “Nice picture”?
At first, I tried to be polite, but after a while, I had to ask him…like, why are you doing this? If you just want upvotes, I’m not giving you any. And guess what he replied? Either "nice" or "great" I also don’t remember anymore. 😂 And then, on my next post, he did it again 😂So I wrote this super long comment asking if he even understood what I was writing, why he was on Hive, what his life’s purpose was—okay, maybe not that dramatic, but you get the idea. And his response? "Yes." 😂 I mean… what the hell, man?! 🤔😂
Anyway, your posts are good, so just keep doing what you're doing! The key is to comment with meaning, only on posts that actually interest you. Trust me, people notice when you're genuine, and they’ll check out your profile to see who this interesting person is.And Sir @azircon ☺️ you actually remember this, thank u for this 😉

P.S. Be consistent with your posts. Try to post 2–3 times a week so people know you’re here because you want to be, not just for the money. Wishing you all the best, my friend! 💪 @beelzael Hope this helps! And if you ever need anything, I’m here…just ask.

All good points! I'll try to keep up with all of them, and agree with all of them. The main thing I have to focus on is shorter - AZ told me that already, I think he used the word "verboose" or something like that, I had never heard that before :-D I have a few ideas :-) Thank you for taking the time to make such a long and great comment to help me out! I really appreciate that!

I told you, when I'm interested in something, I will write a novel. Now you have it! 😂 I really hope it helps. And like I said, you can always ask me for help. I have time. 😂

when did you start calling me 'Sir'? :)

You called me lady… I mean, young lady 😂 so this was the only appropriate response 😂

Agreed!

Nice jab :) I like it.

Ok, now I see it…I wrote an article instead of a comment…It's freaking long 😂

Would be great! I mean, upvotes are great and all, but I would really like to get into discussions about things that interest me a lot... And get some critical feedback about things I write. There must be more than just you :-D

Read my comment on this post :)

it took me a while to find it, but I remembered.

https://peakd.com/hive-174578/@tinabrezpike/every-second-counts-learn-how-to-save-a-life

It was Feb 11, 2024.

Then read this post

https://peakd.com/hive-106258/@tinabrezpike/we-re-finally-here-hivefest-in-split-croatia-begins-tomorrow

I have a comment on this post too :)

Done! Will try to keep it in mind... You had already written me that, and yes, my everyday-stuff is quite boring to me. It might not be for others.

Still, it would be to get more interaction on topics I enjoy writing about. Kind of the end justifies the means. I hope that something interesting happens around here, soon, that is worth thinking and writing about :-D Or maybe finding an interesting twist or angle to the "boring" regular life. I'll think about it. Thanks, as always.

We have many newbees at Ecency and I try to set a good example for them by being somewhat engaged. Sometimes it takes time to get them to understand and write real comments, and often language barriers make commenting difficult for them , but many eventually learn and their accounts grow! It's rewarding to be helpful.

Well tariffs are what is making this bloodbath in crypto… like stocks and even silver/gold!
Anyways the sea of data at hive! Nice plots! I need also to find some time to explore some data that I brought you once the idea of exploring specific communities ! These numbers are crazy! We know that the neutron star has an AI bot for sure

Yes that neutron star needs heavy DV.

I mean making the rewards zero DV.

Community data already possible but I am hesitant. It will be a lot of drama. Not that the drama ever stopped me. But I must watch my health.

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I thought it was an interesting idea. I believe that over time and with feedback from people, it could be used by different curators. However, there are still gaps that I believe are not possible to calculate at the moment. However, I have no doubt that it will be possible in the near future, with the advancement of technology.

The quality or relevance of comments. A user can generate a high ER with superficial or spam comments. I believe that in the future we may have an AI, or something close to it, that can evaluate whether, for example, a comment made by a user on a post has anything to do with what was written in the post, or just a generic comment like "Congratulations on the post, I loved the topic."

I still haven't been able to understand why the multiplication factor in the ER formula is 2. There is a specific reason. Exact sciences are not my specialty.

Should we take into account other forms of engagement? Number of votes (both upvotes and downvotes), reblogs, views, and other interactions that may indicate interest and involvement with the content.

I'm glad to see that you've brought yet another tool to help us enrich our analysis. Just as a carpenter has several tools and doesn't use them all every day, I believe that as a curator, each new metric presented is a new tool that I can use to curate new content in some situation.

Thank you for your contribution.


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Wish there was a way to determine how many of those comments are thoughtless.

"That is a beautiful post friend, I like beautiful things too!"

And you also have to keep in mind that the micro blogging tools (Inleo Threads, Ecency Waves and Peakd Snaps) are all comments in a blogcontainer. And the comments on the microblogs as well.
They form a large part of the comments.

They do and they are counted.

I don't see much value in them though personally. Especially see no reason to reward them.

World would be a better place without twitter...oh damn, you call that X now.

I don't see much value in them though personally. Especially see no reason to reward them.

I do see value in it for myself! it's an quick and easy way to discover and share new things both about Hive as other subjects. I've also discovered quite a few new people that I started following by reading their Snaps. And the rewards cannot be compared with rewards on blogs. It's often just a couple of cents.

Nice post

That used to get an automatic DV from me. But now I have gotten soft. I simply ignore.

These are some of the highest numbers I have seen from some humans that I know as humans.

Quite high engagements of these known names, but on an average, how much we expect ?

the average is 3/day.

You must feel that is low, because you are twice that, at 6.1/day.

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I say you are doing great.

Wow, that is great, did not know, I am doing good. I just comment spontaneously.

Galen is superhuman to do 23 comments a day every day for 6 months!

Many of my comments are just ,,thank you'' or ,,you are right'' as response to replies my posts get. But I try to make a few more thoughtful comments in a day as well. But I can't imagine how much effort it would take to make 23 thoughtful comments a day... I am better at engaging now but I this shows that I still have a long way to go.

if you are saying "thank you", you really don't have anything to say.

If I were you, I will either add something else, or just stay silent.

Finally I am in a magnificent seven. I like it! 😀😀

Seriously though, I did live the days even though it is hurting my head slightly!

I can't believe I would say this to a Scotsman! But you are being modest when you talk about a 'slight' headache! LOL

Modesty is what we do 🤣🤣

4779 active accounts is a scary number and is way less than what we have been told previously being around 15K accounts. This makes sense though and why we need stake holders with HP and not delegating a high percentage out. Thanks for doing these posts as understanding HIVE and what is going on is important so we are all aware.

The number is based on how you measure. I was focused mostly on what I call “active and engaged”

Yes and that is what I would call being realistic.

I was going to skip the ER bit because I found it too complex for pre bedtime reading. Then I saw myself on the human list so thought I'd better go back to understand it 😬

Still don't grasp it, but given I make more than 10 comments a day (didn't realise that, so nice surprise),and the rest of my metrics are above average plus I'm one of us, I'll gladly take that. I just hope the magnificent 7 don't tank like the market!!

On a serious note, engagement is so important on Hive and these quantitative data is extremely useful. If there's a way to get qualitative data as well, that would be perfect!!

I just hope the magnificent 7 don't tank like the market!!

Market is tanking. Tanked already. Will tank more, and we are in a global recession.

This is a fact :)

It will get much much worse, before it gets better. I hope there will be much of 'western world' left in 4 years.

All due to stupid orange face 🤬🤬🤬

It is in fact stupid people who elected him that's the problem. Don't forget that he didn't just win, he won convincingly this time, no jerrymandering would have prevented the disaster this time.

I blame people.

And they deserve what they are getting and will get.

They deserve it but they took down the rest of the world with them

Yes, and the rest of world certainly do not deserve it.

Such is life. What can I say. I hope we can stay afloat somehow.

US futures are currently down 5% for the open tomorrow.

London opens in a few hours, will be a blood bath.

I hated Bush at the time. What would I not do today to get him back, compared to the choice I have currently!

Oh buddy, you are not alone there. What I wouldn't give...

I see bozz at 33.9 comments/day, melinda at 59.1 comments/day and wiseagent at 93.2/day.

Geez.... I need to up my comment game!

Oh buddy, you are not alone there. What I wouldn't give...

I am sure you remember :)

I don't know what to say. Do I date myself out if I say "those were good times" :)

W was an airhead, but at least he did seem to have good intentions, especially when removed from the bad influence of Satan——I mean, Dick Cheney. So much different from the current orange guy.

What I find shocking is that there is less than five thousand active users on Hive. Facebook has millions of active users... are we still super early or we are just super niche social media site?

yep. This 5000 is the correct number. NEVER believe anyone saying otherwise. They are all inflating the number one way or the other.

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interesting new slobberchops tool

so you are saying @seattlea and @seki1 are stiffing on tips?! :)

always expected that from them :) LOL

I’m not saying anything, im showing a picture of cool new tool 😜

I'm lucky my job keeps me at a desk most of the day. It's pretty easy to read posts and comment on them or reply to comments in between other tasks. I wouldn't be nearly as active as I am if I had to do manual labor!

yes, and posting and commenting from phone definitely helps.

I actually prefer using a desktop. I'm at that age where it's just easier for me. I'm always impressed by the folks who can write complex posts from a phone. Good on them!

I prefer it too. But for comments phone is okay and totally possible. I am writing this comment from my phone

Yes, I agree with that. When I am home at night before I go to bed most of my engagement happens via the Ecency app.

Lately I can see AI commenters at Hive which is sad 😔

don't interest with such comments

93 comments a day is crazy man... really crazy😂😂😭

On average a day I do at least 5-10

Guess I gotta up those numbers...

@wiseagent

Are you human? :)

He is! He is just a spammer farming commentrewarder at snaps

São Paulo? Rio de Janeiro? Wise is the first Brazilian orca, and he is from the Northeast of Brazil.

https://peakd.com/@wiseagent/im-back-in-the-game-who-is-wiseagent

First, you are right - "this is not that".

But, I really appreciate the work it takes to articulate our positions - especially in making graphs!

In terms of KE, I'm about to go low on my main, but also a (timely) drawing in of some of my amazing KE accounts, such as ecoinstats. I think in my final form I will be somewhere between superhuman and only simply amazing. But, we will see.

It certainly hasn't escaped my notice, and it seems you have noticed to - that details matter. Let's keep the posts coming, talk it out, and if we have to fight - let's be snipers. Not nuclear bomb technicians.

We ALL love HIVE! Well, maybe except the terrorists. 🤣

(humor helps!)

Thank you.

This is a start. Got all the data. Will post in due time.

Still have a day job, you know :)

Let's see how long it takes.

I appreciate you - and take as long as you need!

By the way, I could care less about the "buyers", tho someone might like that too!

I want the "services", the companies. The guys that should be changing their scripts or packing their bags right now if they are smart.

Thank you!

I only comment on things I feel I can add value to , If I can't I keep quiet in the background I read stuff, I like posts I enjoy reading. In this case I can't add value so I would normally not say anything. I also do not often read the comments especially if they turn epic and turn into books. I don't mind reading books but listening to someone waffle on about some off topic whatever is not why I read the post.

Anyway kind of feel weird posting but in the spirit of the post trying to be more engaging even though I do feel like my post is adding 0 value.

That is understandable. It is important to find like minded people.

That said, you should always try and push your boundaries, who know who you will find on the other side.

The top commenters like wiseagent probably includes comments on micro-blogging Snaps and InLeo.

but even with that I am suspecting if all the comments are manual, especially when leo is involved, my trust goes down personally.

Interesting metrics! I was wondering a couple weeks ago how many accounts would be actively posting on Hive, now I got my answer.

Yeah. That is one of the main purpose of this post.

I don't have much to say so I stopped posting and sometimes read and comment. Hive is actually not bad compared to everything else out there.

I am sure you have something to say to yourself.

Most of the times, I am talking to myself :)

Good post!
I was one of the ones that was trying to get a discussion going about improving Hive.
KE was part of that discussion.

One of the topics was that reputation level of users isn't really helpful to determine users that are of added value to Hive. Although it allow us to see if a user is downvoted a lot, a high number doesn't mean that the user is a role model.

It would be nice if we could take some other numbers into account to determine whether a Hiver adds value to the platform.
KE is one of them, but indeed as you already mentioned, there is some discussion about it. People that extract Hive could have been doing this for good reasons and they might still be of added value to the Hive.

Commenting is another figure to look at. Nice to see the stats you have collected.
It's good to see the engagement on the Hive blockchain.
Although we do have to look critically at some numbers too. As you mentioned, some are from bots, but I also see a lot of low effort human interaction.
As others already have stated in the comments here; there are also a lot of 'Great post' replies.
Apart from that we also have to note that the microblogging initiatives (Threads, Waves, Snaps, ...) use a blog as a container for all the microblogs from users, which are actually comments.
Some people that are active on these platforms are actually not engaging, but microblogging their own content.
I've been using Peakd Snaps myself as well. I like posting one or two Snaps a day and interact with the people that react to that. And I also react to snaps from others. The number of comments I make on a day increased a lot after I started using Snaps.
And they aren't necessarily really engaging like long form comments (like this one 😂).

For the @topcomment curation service I'm running I run a scheduled script that excludes short comments, comments from microblogging platforms, automated bot comments and comments of daily prompt blogs (because in this last case people only share their own story).

It would be cool if more information about our behavior on Hive could be reflected in a number, more numbers or something like a account health indicator next to the Hive usernames, replacing the current rep score.

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How is this a “top comment”?

I must have accidentally copied the wrong comment URL for curation 😒
I was supposed to upvote the comment from vempromundo above it.

LOL

Human error :)

Also with manual curation things can go wrong 😂
But there's a nice interaction on your post 👍

I am getting reports that people are farming "topcomment" initiative.

Now I am baffled how that is even possible because your upvote is typically slightly above 'dust' anyways. Who would try to farm such a thing and for what.

But I am reporting what I hear, please don't kill the messenger :)

I wonder where you get this from?
Are you on Discord?

I got it from right here on this post. Read all the comments :)

Yes I am on discord

Ah, thanks. I didn't check all the new comments...

Well, is there any chance for us newcommers to be on that list? I created my account about two months ago and see myself as active, but on the great plot of things, do we newcommers even show on that list of yours?

It's a good thing we didn't go to tarrifs Mr Azircon haha, might just get some ice cream today. Galen is doing pretty well with 23 comments a day. Real engagement takes effort and it's definitely worth rewarding. Now about tariffs 🤣 when does it stop

I guess I am neither active nor engaged with this criteria since when I attempted to do the same on that website I didn't show up. :D

I've never been the social type to begin with so it kind of makes sense.

Still, This is a great addition to go with KE, nice at a glance numbers that paint a rough picture of how people utilize hive.


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Hi @azircon!

I think the analysis you shared is very good. However, I regret that it's included in that list you're referring to in such a way that I appear as someone trying to buy votes or make spam comments, or as someone who engages in comment bots through automatic notifications or other means.

That is not, and has never been, my intention.
If I comment on many occasions, it's because I believe the people I'm commenting to deserve it. On the other hand, I understand that it could be interpreted that I often don't write too much in my messages or comments, and that this could lead some to consider it a spam comment, but again, that's not my intention. Sometimes I comment with few words due to work or personal family time, and as a way of supporting people, I comment, even if it's brief, because I consider it disrespectful to leave a comment unanswered or empty.

I hope you understand me, that I'm not misinterpreted, and that my name isn't nominated for unfair attacks or undeserved silence.

What I intend to do is learn little by little, as I've only been here a short time in this wonderful world, where I hope to continue without setbacks and with positive energy.

Greetings.

If I were you, I would focus on quality as opposed to quantity. I would also focus to build a network, and really get to know people as opposed to putting 42 comments/day on the blockchain.

Please tell me, did that help you in the last 6 months?

Hello.
I understand what you're saying and I appreciate it.

Of course, I've been meeting people who I think are real, and in fact, because of the good energy that permeates most of the communities where I've read published work, I appreciate the positive energy of those people who motivate me to interact.

I'm not interested in spamming or creating empty content without motives other than sharing my work, my perceptions of life, and other issues, participating in contests and activities that I've found very interesting, and, of course, growing so I can help others in need.

I've only been here for four months (I started in December 2024) and I'm still trying to understand the interaction process.

When I comment on people, it's because I think they deserve it and I'm interested in their posts, and as a way of giving back, I respond to them.

I understand that I often don't write enough, but I will strive to do so because I understand what you've made clear in your magnificent analysis.

I hope you understand.

Best regards.

I appreciate your kindness in responding.

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Great post @azircon, it's a very interesting point to raise, when I see posts like this I remember theories about the "dead internet" I saw some names I know on the list, @melinda010100 who is always helping newbies on ecency, @coyotelation who is always online on inleo threads, @wiseagent and @shiftrox are present on snaps, I agree with you that unfortunately we have a lot of "bots" that make "threads" of messages, sometimes in some posts I simply gave up going to the "comments" to read them because there are some bots that put more than 50 texts and images in the post which makes it extremely toxic.

When we have active people commenting and moving the community, this is great. We need more of this dialogue. I think it would be interesting if Hive had some kind of "filter" for posts with only "commands." I remember about 6 months ago when people would put some names on a list and let the "bot" comment on specific posts from people they followed and programmed. It's a very intense debate. I'm happy to see Hive resuming the conversations that are necessary for the evolution and continuity of the network. We need this. I think no one is perfect. Even newbies will hardly understand the Hive system quickly. We know that there is a certain barrier.

But I have faith that over time things will adjust and improve.

-I quote: 1- "I know that I do not use any automation for posting and commenting. I personally know several others who doesn't". 2- "These are some of the highest numbers I have seen from some humans that I know as humans".

-Question: how to distinguish between those using automation & those who don't ? also between those who are humans & those who are not ? "like did you count only people you know in real life to get 100% accurate data or did you use a combination of "account age + reputation + hive holdings".

-I quote: "4779 active hive account". -Question: why hive can't get millions of users like web2 social networks ?


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