Where Do New Hivers Come From?

in Hive Statistics11 months ago (edited)

Can Hive Grow More Easily In Certain Regions?

In light of our persistent dearth of new users, are there parts of the world where Hive performs better in onboarding, where we could potentially grow more easily than elsewhere?

Accounts

Since the split with Steem, there have been 1,107,037 new user accounts created. 85,335 eventually made a post or comment, or 7.7%. Of those, 33,195 (39%) have location data set in their profile.

Posting and setting location.PNG

Where Have New Hivers Come From?

The majority of users don't set location data, and even among those who do, most are meaningless for location or not identifiable to me. Below I have split all these users based on the data in their location profile.

Social Media Users by Region.PNG

Unidentifiables includes locations like "Hive", "Blockchain", "The World" etc. but also those locations which were too infrequent for me to include in my query lest I manually search thousands of values.

Social Media Users by Region - With Unidentifiables.PNG

Here is a chart that shows those populations over time, only counting those that became active within 30 days of joining.

Newly Active Users with and without Location Data.PNG

Newly Active Users By Region

Finally let's look at where new users come from.

Newly Active Users By Region.PNG

As we can see, South America is almost always where we get most of our new users, followed often closely by Asia. As you're likely aware, Venezuela dominates ahead of all countries, but Argentina, Colombia and Brazil also contribute a good portion of new users.

The vast majority of North American and European users we have on Hive today are likely long-time holdouts from before the fork from Steem. Outside of longtimers, our userbase today appears to be almost all South American and Asian.

Note the recent spike in new South American users in late 2023.

Retention Rates

There are huge differences regionally in how well we hold on to our new users as well. Let's compare our highest retention region with our lowest retention region. This metric compares how many new users are still posting in the second 30 day window to the first*.

Brand New User Retention Americas.PNG

Not only does South America contribute by far the most new users, the difference in how likely they are to stay is massive. A new North American user is about 30% likely to continue posting into the second month. That's 60% for a new South American user.

Note the collapse in South American retention in late 2023. This is actually the reason I wanted to make this post, we can see how it coincided with the spike in new users seen before. In late 2023 we had a major spike in new users from Venezuela, however their retention was extremely low.

This demonstrates that spending resources to draw in users is unlikely to be worthwhile, because retention can be very poor. The spike had pretty much no impact on user activity overall in the end. Hive has core problems that need to be resolved before we should spend substantial resources on attracting new users.

Finally here is the chart with the brand new user retention rates for all regions except Oceania (numbers are too small so retention rates are all over the place).

Brand New User Retention World.PNG

* ie. how many people post between 30 to 60 days after creating an account compared to the first 30 days.

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How about the toxic groups that are running off anyone that is on board? How about all the anti-abuse groups that fart maliciously downvoting innocent users.

How about one of the anti-abuse groups attacking a hive business. Yep we've actually seen a hive business getting abused to drive business to the toxic group.

Yes you are right we have huge issues and problems.

Hive has core problems

Can you summarise these?

Would also be interesting to look at which regions are growing their HP collectively and whether this is changing over time.

Low user retention are evidence that serious problems exist, but they don't clearly point at what those problems are. I would suggest some of the problems we haven't managed to adequately address are:

Clunky onboarding experience.
User experience that requires sometimes handling crypto keys to transfer account between apps.
Revenue incentives are highly insular, little incentive to push content out to wider web.
A culture that can be overbearing wrt what is appropriate to post here.

Ah, okay, I understand. I wondered whether there were any I hadn't come across. Thank you for responding.