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Moderator:
Thanks everyone for being here. While we wait for more people to join, remember today is hive power up day. You have around nine hours because the HPUD works with UTC times. So we have nine hours to power up and show our support to the blockchain. You don't know what HPUD is. It happens on every first of the month. And it's when we all as a blockchain, as a community, one of the biggest communities and most committed ones in the space, we gather together and show how much we believe in Hive and how bullish we are on Hive, so we power up and this is a signal for the outside and the inside of Hive on how bullish we are on our ecosystem.
A few friendly announcements in the meantime, while we wait for the speakers to come up.
Splinterlands still has their Rebellion Packs sale ongoing. If you are a Splinterlands player, or if you want to get into Splinterlands, now it's the best time to do it. Go check their posts, go check their website, and show them some support.
We also have the HoloZing game that came out around a week ago. This is a game that is no it's not yet live, but the alpha version or the beta version will be up very soon, but you can now delegate Hive power and receive tokens in return. So you should definitely check that out.
And the third one is the SPK Network has a new proposal up, to keep developing the infrastructure to bring us their new technology. So check that proposal out.
We are also going to have @vaultec here to share with us a little bit about the VSC proposal, but in the meantime, you can just go check it out.
Welcome to the second Hive community town hall. This is not an official meeting. It's just the community joining in together to talk about what pertains to the Hive community and the Hive blockchain.
We are here to share what the frontends are doing, what their plans are to get involved with the community. And the community can also get involved and ask questions. Pretty much just hear what's going on Hive. These kind of town halls happened in the past, but over the past few years we didn't see an initiative like this one.
So Nift, do you want to tell the audience what @town-hall is? Just pretty quick so that we can start. We're just going to give it until the 15 minute mark to start this, because we know the founders have a tight agenda.
Moderator:
Yeah, of course, and we respect you guys time for sure, so we're trying to keep it on time schedule for about two hours, yeah, so @town-hall is a new community based witness for Hive launched by @l337m45732, @anomadsoul, @jongolson, and @taskmaster4450. But aside from just being a witness. We decided that it would be a great idea to, to try to bring community members, founders, builders, really anyone that, wants to have a say in things together and, just like a town hall meeting for anything we can all gather here share our thoughts, share our updates on what we're working on and, if somebody has questions they can come up and ask in a format that doesn't make anyone uncomfortable and doesn't, you don't have to have any kind of level of technical knowledge or any of that stuff. We're just here to try to bring everyone together, find out how we can all grow together, find out how we can all collaborate in a way that makes Hive a better place for everyone. And, ultimately to bring more people to the Hive ecosystem, not just individual apps.
So that's the general idea. And I personally think this is a great way to do that because, like we said, anybody can jump in here that wants to and request to speak just, we'll get to a section where we invite more people, but yeah, that's the idea. We appreciate you guys following along with us, jumping in here and we look forward to speaking to everyone.
Moderator:
Excited for this and really seeing, high for what it's meant to be and community focused and just just excited for it, man. Looking forward, especially hearing all from the different apps and stuff. Yeah, let's go. Let's rock. Awesome. We have a hundred and six listeners, guys.
@mcfarhat (Actifit):
First of all, it's a pleasure to be here. Thank you guys for setting this up. I think it's a much needed initiative. We need to just connect everyone, bring a lot of information and collaboration, uh, between the whole hive ecosystem. Alright, so let's give a quick nutshell about what ha what active it is and who we are, what we do.
So we are actually one of the first dabs built on hive. Before Hive came to. Life probably started in 2018, uh, activate is basically just a call for fitness, a mechanism to incentivize people to actually live healthier. What became known as the move to earn initiative long before the move to earn got hyped up last year and probably again in the near term.
So yeah we wanted to come up with something pretty neat and something that is built on the core of hive that would push people to actually move and track their fitness steps. whether you're walking, you're running, you're going to the gym, you're doing whatever you're doing. As long as it involves some movement, we wanted to push people to keep doing that and to help maintain a healthy lifestyle.
That's how active it came to exist. And with the whole social ecosystem built on Hive, it was the perfect match from our perspective. And ever since we've been building and growing for the last five or six years. So yeah, this is in a nutshell a really short intro and I guess we can elaborate more as we go.
Moderator:
Thank you for sharing, man. We have Chris here, Chris Rice from D Buzz. Chris, tell people, get them hyped about D Buzz.
@chrisrice (dBuzz):
What's up, man? Hi, everyone. Yeah. So I'm Chris Rice, one of the founders of D Buzz along with Nathan Sen. And dApp shortly after. The fork from steam to hive. We are one of the first projects to launch on the new chain and the first microblogging platform on hive and we make it easy where users can have an alternative to traditional web to social media.
Whether feeds aren't organic, it's the feeds are rigged where let's say you have 10, 000 or 100, 000 followers on those platforms. Sometimes, you'll only see a fraction or those followers will only see a fraction of your posts. So we're offering an alternative with organic feeds that are natural.
And one of our value propositions is that it's healthier to have organic feeds. And organic conversations that aren't rigged by proprietary algorithms that choose the feeds. So we're also launching a long form version of our platform later this month and are working towards including a dex as well as a chat service this year.
moderator:
This is amazing. And seeing how fast the hack development. It's working and going, it just makes everyone believe more in how Hive can actually change the world of Web3 and socialfi in general.
Elmer is the founder of Liketu. Hey man, how are you? Do you want to tell people what's up with Liketu?
@elmerlin (Liketu):
Hello guys and hello all my fellow comrades, thank you for having me here. It's a real pleasure to speak to you all as usual and It's a pleasure to speak to you for the first time. I'd like to just say that it's amazing that everyone is here.
I think it's a great opportunity for all of us to collaborate, set aside our differences and figure out ways that we can move forward together as a community now in terms of what Liketu is doing. We've been working on reinforcing the short form content platform and I think that. I think we're paving the way for that style of content on Hive.
Obviously, there are other front ends that are now doing very similar things, but we are all about the visual short form format. Now, to enhance the experience for our users we've added a couple of other on-chain things such as on-chain likes and these are non reward based, but they are an important signal for everyone, just as likes are on regular social media.
But the ones on two are going to be different because we're going to use some on chain measurements such as centrality. To help us figure out how much of an influence you are to the network as a whole. Now, I'm really excited about this development because it means that all dApps are able to use this model and they will be able to work out the reputation or relevant influence of their users and then use things like on chain likes as a signal to figure out how to vote.
So if you're a large stakeholder and you don't know who to vote for. This new reputation system, which we are calling Aura, is going to help you in a big way. So that's one of the most exciting things coming for Like2. Other than that, we're also really really excited to bring out other short form formats.
So we're looking at various short form videos. And also voice voice notes, that kind of thing. It is just incredible to see how we started as a blockchain focused only on long form content. But nowadays we have so many ways to interact with the blockchain and we can cater to so many different kinds of creators.
moderator:
This kind of likes that do not distribute rewards are actually pretty useful. I'm looking forward to hearing more about it.
Jarvie is the founder of PeakD, one of the longest standing dapps or maybe probably the longest one. I don't know. Jarvie, get us hyped about PeakD. Hey, how's it going?
@jarvie:
Yes, here representing PeakD, which is a content writing platform with access also to communities and plenty of web and wallet features and key features, a bunch of different things in there. But I think that perhaps one of the more interesting things that we, I could be here representing and helping is I help run the Peak Open Projects, which is basically a bunch of Hive developers from the community that have come over and with our help, we're helping coordinate their efforts to create decentralized tools that work for all of the UIs that are here.
So it's just like a group project amongst the Hive community. And they're creating tools that all the UIs can use chat systems and polling systems and the Hive, like a blockchain explorer since the old one was abandoned, and a bunch of other different features that we've been working on with a bunch of Hive developers, I think that's the more interesting thing. I think a lot of people May know what Peak D is, and I'll still be happy to talk about what we're doing or ideas from our perspective as well.
But yeah, Peak Open Projects is probably the more interesting thing to talk about.
moderator:
One of the things that gets me more bullish about Peak D is that you guys are working on the front end development, but you are also working on these open projects that anyone can tap into, like the sting chat feature. So yeah, really amazing, man.
So guys, I know that a lot of people are requesting to speak. We will go into that section in a little bit. Let's just hear what the dApps have to say about onboarding, community building, retention, and then afterwards.
And after they give us their takes on all of these matters. We will have enough powder for us, for the community, to ask questions to chip in to the conversation. Remember that we do have a threadcast, I think there's a Waves tag, there's a Dbuzz tag, so if you want to ask a question but you don't feel comfortable coming into the stage, you can do it in a written form, and we will read them around the fourth or fifth section of this space.
@moderator:
Yeah, I just wanted to add, I am actively pulling questions from Threads, from Waves, and from D Buzz. So if you're dropping questions in any of those three locations, I am pulling them into a notepad for the section where we're gonna answer some community questions. So just wanted to put that out there.
Hey, Khal get us bullish on Leo. And pretty much just tell the audience that is going to listen in the future when they join the Hive blockchain in six months and watch this video, what InLeo is.
@khaleelkazi (InLeo):
So InLeo is microblogging on the blockchain. It's the big niche that we've gone after more recently, but. What it really opens up to is the everything app we're aiming to build, from video to short form video to long form written to short form written, just building out a creator economy that enables anybody to basically come in and build a brand and monetize themselves with web three.
And what I think is a key piece for Hive is, making the onboarding process seamless. And allowing people to come in, join in under 30 seconds and use the blockchain. So we've really made it a key focus for ourselves to be on top of onboarding going after creators as well as audience members.
So that's InLeo. That's what we're about. And, I think for Hive our kind of, our KPI is how many people we onboard.
moderator:
I do think that the more that we use numbers in our favor the more that we are going to be able to, first of all, onboard more people, but also retain them. And retention has been one of the biggest issues, not only on Hive, but on every other Web3 platform out there, we have a space, a crypto space that is very hype based that just goes towards the new shiny thing and we have been here for seven years as a community and for three and a half years as a blockchain. So we do have to tackle these issues about onboarding and retention, mainly because if we really want to make the hype blockchain go mainstream. And to get the users that the high blockchain deserves, we need, first of all, to have strategies.
And second of all, to work together as a blockchain. Yes, we are probably eight, eight main front ends here, but there's also a few smaller ones, but in the end, we're all part of the high blockchain.
So McFarhat. Coming into section two, how do you see the high blockchain evolving in the next five years? What is Actifit doing to keep growing? What are your best practices so that other frontends can copy them or learn from them in general? Just tell us how is Actifit going to grow over the next five years.
@mcfarhat:
We've actually been I think, the title of this of this town Hall represents what we are trying to accomplish and what we've been working on.
We really think the collaboration uh, and the integrations between the different components of the hive ecosystem is the key word for growth and for success. That's why we've actually, we are essentially a move to earn project. So we reward people to move, but we've expanded our vision in active it so that we are a platform or an entry point for many of the different tabs that are available here.
For example, when our users will come for the fitness via active it. We are exposing them now to all the different components of Hive through the Actifit interface. For example, they would come to our Explore page, they would find 3Speak videos, they would find Leo Finance content, they would find Like2 content.
So all the dApps are being represented via our front end. We've done integrations with Bosch initiative with three speak videos, whether on the web, we recently even introduced this on the mobile app we've collaborated with OCD for expanding the rewards for our users.
We've integrated with Hive engine on the web, on the mobile app so that users can figure out what's happening behind the scenes on Hive, what rewards they're getting. They're earning CPT, they're earning Leo, they're earning whatever. So all these rewards are coming to the attention of the user.
And they're aware that there is a bigger platform in the background. More than ActiFit. So it's not only ActiFit that they're using. So they can use all of these different components and they can access them through ActiFit and get a higher and a much more interesting exposure that would lead to more retention and more interest for the users in the Hive experience.
moderator:
You just mentioned something very key. To collaborate with the communities that exist on Hive. Not only the frontends, not only the dApps, but to actually leverage it. We might have different front ends, we might have different apps, but in the end, all of our users are hive users. So if we learn to leverage this and to create synergies between each other, we are definitely going to reach out to more people, both within the hive ecosystem, as well as outside of the ecosystem.
Chris what's up? With Dbuzz, how do you see Hive evolving into the next five years and what are you guys doing to push adoption in that same time span?
Chris Rice:
What Hive will be in the next few years I'm sure it's somewhat unpredictable, and there's just going to be so many aspects of Hive that I can't really predict in every direction it's going to go into, and the evidence of that is, even though I'm a founder of a significant DAP on Hive.
I don't know everything that even the top DAPPs here are doing just because so much is going on. But in terms of marketing, this year we realized, much like everyone else, that onboarding is not the same as retention. So we've shifted where we're focusing on two things. One of them is business development, where we onboard investors to buy Hive and HBD.
And actually more than half of the HBD that we earn from our Hive proposal was already purchased from an investor that we onboarded. They didn't invest in DBuzz. They invested specifically in Hive Power and HBD to the tune of over 80,000. You can see the account. It's @dpservice.
So one of the good things about D Buzz is that we're not just a dApp, we're grounded in a network of businessmen in a business group that we have stemming from DeVal City. So that helps a lot. And the second thing... Is that we're partnering with schools that have students anywhere from 15, 000 students both high schools and colleges, and we're going to work to even have an office in these schools, that will be a hive educational hub so that we essentially have high schools in the Philippines without having to build the schools.
moderator:
That is amazing because you not only are working in your dapp, but you're also working in a lot of marketing initiatives in your region of the world.
So we have seen a lot of news pieces on what you're doing with all of the outreach. Around the Philippines and in the Philippines.
Good karma, the founder of ecency, he's here with us, but he's having some technical issues. So I do feel that I should tell the community a little bit about Ecency.
I'm not an official representative, but I do want the community to hear about what Ecency is. To me it is the most simple to use and user friendly interface for long form content in the space. Yes, I think that's their main value proposition. Maybe good karma thinks otherwise, but it's so easy to use.
It focuses on long form content. But they also have a thing called waves and decks, is a way to manage all of the short form platforms in one place, just like tweetdeck, and they have waves, which is their micro blogging feature that users can just go there and share ideas in less than 255 characters, and they are open source.
So anyone who wants to create their own front end, they can just tap into the Ecency code and they can just put out a front end in a matter of hours. Good karma has been a Hive user for, I think, seven years or already, maybe six, he's been a witness for probably the same amount of time.
He's always been developing a front end. He started with Esteem, and then when the blockchain overtake happened, he came up with Ecency, they have a mobile app, which is very user friendly. I know for a fact that around 20 percent of our user base, the Hive user base that blogs and creates content, they do so from the mobile app.
So that's a little bit about Ecency. I can see Grampo here. Hey man, sorry for not inviting you before. I'm glad that you joined us. Do you want to tell the audience what is Waivio? I saw your talk in Hivefest and I was so bullish about it because you're bringing in a product that is so needed for space and you are building on the Hive blockchain for a while now.
@grampo (Waivio):
Thank you for the recognition. Thank you for organizing the town hall. It actually feels like a continuation of HiveFest to a certain degree.
So now quickly about Waivio and what we do.
So Waivio is an app. It originally started as a front end just so that there will be some extra functionality. But today we're mostly focused on what we call social shopping. On Hive, and basically we're looking to open an entirely different dimension for the Hive blockchain, which basically allows Web3 open space for data storage.
And in this case, we're talking about the ability of people to store information about products and compile online shops, affiliate shops using that information. So basically today, if you go to Waivio, every user has a shop in their profile, just like you would normally have posts and comments and followers on your wallet you also have shop, and in order for you to add a product to that shop, all you need to do is just basically find it on Waivio and mark it with a heart. And so it becomes part of your profile: I'm recommending this Camping table, or I'm recommending this particular foundation for the face and so on.
And We also developed a very simple way of uploading products to Hive, we call it Waivio Chrome extension. You just basically install an extension. You go to Amazon or Walmart. You just click the product Say upload to waivio and it will be automatically uploaded to the hive blockchain and added to your store and in your settings, you can basically add your affiliate codes let's say with Amazon or Walmart and all the links from your profile from your posts to these products will automatically have your affiliate code integrated there as well.
In terms of some recent updates since the HiveFest, we now allow people to launch their shops, not just within their profile, but as a separate website, and it can now be operated with a custom domain name.
So most of our projects are right now moving to custom domains, uh, which is way better for search engine optimization, AdSense integration and some other things.
moderator:
So for those who are not too technical about this, Waivio basically is a way for anyone to create their own shop, right Grampo?
Grampo:
Correct. And the type of shop where you don't need to have an inventory. So basically, you're not limited by the products that you actually have. You do not process credit cards. You don't need to store these items. You don't need to do customer support. Basically, the only thing you're responsible for is finding the best products that you want to recommend and just basically hardening them.
moderator:
I am pretty, pretty bullish on what Wavio can achieve in the sense that anyone in the world can create their own online shop with a few clicks and start earning money without having an inventory. Thanks man.
Carl about the five year roadmap of Hive, of course, like Chris said, we don't know the future, but we can definitely try to have a structure and try to achieve as a blockchain onboarding, retention, community building. So how do you see Hive and what is Leo going to do in these next five years to help us reach mass adoption? And for those in the audience, listening carefully to what every speaker is saying, because we want your questions, we want you to actually come into the stage and say, Hey, I have a question about this, or maybe I didn't get this correctly.
We want this community town hall to actually feature community members who have anything to add to the conversation.
Khal:
I've often split the onboarding and growth of hive into three main categories, which would be investors/business owners/entrepreneurs, and then users, and then developers.
And I think for Hive to grow, in the past, I think a lot of focus has been put on getting users to understand Hive and, get Hive keys and learn about Hive. And how it can, they can stack Hive power and create blog posts. But I really think the next five years of Hive is going to be defined by getting people interested, that those other categories in terms of investors and entrepreneurs and developers, getting them the tools they need and the interest they need, to build on the blockchain.
I think a lot of emphasis when it comes to Hive itself should be placed on Getting people to build stuff, getting people to invest in stuff. If you look at ecosystems that have really exploded, obviously Ethereum being the prime example in the crypto space, they exploded because, there was a big interest in developing, in building, in business building that's ultimately what drives the users in after the fact.
I think the next five years of onboarding for Hive really entail. Going after those big business and investor developer types. And then in terms of users, I think, having the toolkits, um, and the support that's needed, uh, to get developers and businesses off the ground and building great applications, that's ultimately how you're going to get the users in.
I think Hive is very unique in a lot of ways. With the DHF, obviously being a big part of it, but also with the toolkits and how easy it is to build here and how many things are open source. I think it's severely under leveraged by people who want to build in this space. And, as many of us have gotten more active and.
Different circles on X and talking to different people in web three, there's a lot of interest in building and in building cool stuff and, building a business and a project. So I think the next five years are going to be really defined for Hive in terms of let's, get these people who are already interested in business, already interested in investing, already interested in developing things, get them to understand what they can do with Hive when you put the right tools in their hands, because in my opinion, we have all the right tools. It's just about getting it into the right hands.
moderator:
And we already have a huge community. We are 10, 000 active content creators on Hive. So we have the numbers. All we need is to actually get the community to work together, Frontends working together, dApps working together, doing something to achieve this mass option that we have been working for over the past seven years.
Elmer, Liketu is one of the dapps that are growing the fastest over the past few months. What are your plans for the next five years? How do you see hive? And especially what are you doing that is helping you attract more users to Liketu.
Elmer:
I think one of the interesting things is like you said we don't really know what's going to happen in five years.
I don't think anyone can say that they know, but we do have to take responsibility for what we can do. And so I think one of the ethos that we follow at Liketu is how do we give value back to the users all the time?. So it almost feels like a strange concept to me, but I feel like my job every day is to figure out how to distribute resources and value with the power that I have to, in the best way to the people that are participating.
And that's one of the central themes for why we're developing an on chain reputation system and with the likes as the signal because it allows us to allocate resources in such a way that what is it Inherently, a finite resource will seem like it is abundant, and we know that, a good economy is when everything seems like it is abundant.
When you go into a supermarket, you don't really feel like anything there is going to run out, even though inherently there is a limited supply of everything for sale. We live in what feels like an abundant society. For most of us, I know some of us don't, but that is only enabled because we have such an efficient free market.
Now, one of the things that having a transparent blockchain like Hive does is it allows us to capture those signals and it allows us to make better decisions on allocating value. And I think this comes back to what I was saying about how to get value back to the users. And now we develop a lot of Features and systems that allow us to return that value back to our users And I think our users really appreciate that and that's one of the reasons that's one of the cornerstones for why we're growing the way we're growing because people come here and they feel like they're getting rewarded for you know the marginal contribution that they have and they're getting rewarded proportionately to What they feel like they should be getting.
It's very difficult as a curator to fully know how much to reward and how much to allocate here or there. Obviously your voting power is a finite resource, but if you could capture just the right amount and have a signal, then you can allocate resources in such a way that it almost feels like there are unlimited resources to distribute here.
And I'm very interested in this moving forward and also introducing it to the rest of Hive. I think in the next five years, I think we can leverage the protocol that we sit on already. It's already very powerful. We seem to forget that we have this built in attention economy.
And we always think about how we can be more like Ethereum, but I don't think we should do that. We have a moat that we can defend here. And it is one of the reasons that we're still here and we're still alive and kicking. We have a vibrant community, so I don't think we should forget that and we should leverage it a little bit more.
moderator:
And that is exactly why I am so excited about the future of Hive. We have so many dApps that are so different between each other. We are not competitors to each other, we have different value propositions. Different ways for the users to actually engage with each tab. So if each of us focuses on something that provides value, just like you said, with your reputation system that you're also going to share with all the other front ends, et cetera.
So this is what gets Hive going so many different people from different backgrounds, developing tools for the user that in the end. If they have a hype account, if they have a hype digital identity, they are able to actually jump into any, all of the tabs that we have in the ecosystem.
Peakdd is probably that I don't know if it's the top one or the top two, but it's definitely one of the most used front ends for long form content, I really want to hear what you guys are doing to actually retain these users and to onboard them constantly and what's your take on the next five years, man.
@Jarvie (Peakd):
All right. Next five years, huh? Someone previously said that we had like 10, 000 creators, but I want to assure people we have in the seven figure range in number of viewers, there's tons and tons of people coming from all corners of the internet from Google searches and other websites that are tied to all the content that has been created over the last, what, seven years. So there's quite a few viewers. So if we want to have a lot more creators coming in, and I think that's a lot what people are talking about for retention, but there's also a lot of people playing a bunch of games. Yeah, we have at least a dozen really involved user interfaces and probably that many in number of games with Splinterlands being a very large game with tens of thousands of users as well. But in the next five years, I would love to see Like success be the number of projects that are building on Hive more than a dozen really active games, like more than just are like in the peak open projects, which is the open source projects for all for the hive community by hive development community members.
We have 8 Developers working on like at least five different projects that are for all the user interfaces and, I'd love to see that number grow and it should grow larger with, and obviously there should be much larger projects as well. There are certain groups that are going to other blockchains, sucking them for huge funding rounds going nowhere because they just want the money, they don't have the vision and those Blockchains don't really have the tools for them. We know, we've talked to these other blockchains. They send us emails, we talk to them and we entertain their thoughts and they're like we could do all this on our blockchain, we talked to them.
They don't have what's needed. They think they do and they're like, oh wow you guys Yeah, we don't have that. And we're like we have it over on Hive. Anyway, so what's there, those people are going out sucking those other one’s drive money because they're not really there to build something awesome that continues.
They're just trying to get a quick buck. And so we hope that Some of those people will say, Oh, why don't we build things that actually create large communities? So in the next five years, well in the next year, I'd love to see chat implemented on every site and it's decentralized so that you could be on no matter what site chatting with someone that's maybe on a different site.
And then, we've done projects like Hive Statistics, which is open source. We'd love to see that integrated in lots of fun ways. And soon, we've basically been centralized with one wallet extension that can do actions on different sites. So we're already using our wallet software in testing right now to do actions on different sites.