It is not "copypasta spam" unless it is reposted multiple times. A single post with an added source is considered a sourced post, and shared content from other social media.
You do not wish to acknowledge its value in social media, and that is your opinion. However, that is an opinion and not objective fact (as opposed to direct plagiarism, direct spamming, etc.). Are opinions of content value part of the purview for hivewatchers?
Once again, if you wish to be part of the curation team for the community, you are welcome to discuss this with us, and we can always put it to a vote within our community. Otherwise, you are intruding into our community and making value decisions based upon your established opinion and overriding the rest of the community, seeing as your vote canceled out all of the others which were positive.
I ask you kindly to either respect our own community guidelines, speak with us so that we may come to a conclusion before you start overriding our votes, or to kindly leave us alone to continue functioning as a cohesive community.
The account is part of the scam group belonging to certain abuser. The spam-abuse group which you support and defend.
sadiabibi
saleembk
sehrish-nosheen
The defence of evident defence of abuse of the Hive reward pool and the incentivising of spam raises an eyebrow.
This community's activity will be now watched for possible incentivising and rewarding of abuse on Hive.
I will request proof of this. Thus far, the 2nd and 3rd accounts have posted 1 article per day from an outside source,, none repeated, and all sourced. It is not my favorite content, but it is not spam nor is it plagiarism. This has been my experience with them while they have posted in this community.
I've offered a reasonable option to have you apply as a member of our curation team so that we could hear out your opinions in more detail, and also to put it up for a community vote. I've explained my personal rationale for the value that sharing content can provide, but you choose to ignore the reasoning behind this argument.
You insist upon your opinion and ignore the question of whether it is within the purview of hivewatchers, which is supposed to be objective. Are you afraid to answer this question and reveal bias?
Instead, your response is to levy threats upon this community. You are the abuser. You should be ashamed of yourself for how you handled this situation.
I will be making a post about this and allow the community to decide. However, based on your current behavior and refusal to accept the openness that I offered you, your presence is not currently welcomed here. Do not bother the members of my community.
We are now also looking into the vote-trading scheme that you have created:
Hive SBI is an account-based curation program with a deep history on Hive. Members curate others for ongoing support, and they receive their curation rewards back in the form of upvotes on their own content.
While we believe that the choice of which accounts represent quality should be up to the individual, we agree that plagiarism, fraud, and minimal effort content should not receive a slice of the reward pool.
If an account merely cross-posts content that they did not themselves create we are in agreement with @hivewatchers that the content is plagiarism and should not be rewarded. We are adding sehrish-nosheen to our skiplist, so they will not receive any support from Hive SBI, regardless of how many units they are sponsored with.
We have less formal channels with @freecompliments, so have messaged them there, but will formally state for the record that we are discouraging them from sponsoring HSBI units for this type of content.
There is merit in the argument that 'curating content from elsewhere' is normal behavior for social media, but most social media does not include direct monetization for the end user. Hive as a community needs to hold itself to a higher standard.
Monetization of content that was creating by others, without obtaining explicit permission from the creator or adding substantial effort of ones own, such as extensive quotation or fair use doctrine, is plagiarism, illegal in most jurisdictions, and not supported by Hive SBI.
Well, I thank you for taking both of our points of view into consideration, and also for adding your own reasoning in a most cordial way. This is how I prefer an exchange of ideas: with mutual respect and understanding. Indeed, I am well aware that differences in opinions exist, and as such I do respect both of your opinions on this matter.
In line with this statement, my contention with @hivewatcher's decision was that there is a subjective value that we're assigning to this type of content (i.e. opinions), and thus that's out of their scope to vote upon, as it's supposed to be purely objective.
At any rate, since the HSBI project is yours I will respect how you choose to have it used. I'll be making a post tonight incorporating these changes, effective immediately. Just let me know which other users or content (if any) you would prefer not receiving HSBI and we'll make sure to work with you.
This is a wonderful point, and it definitely shifted my perspective. Now, my opinion would still stand as long as sourcing is clearly available, but this further incentivizes me to place this to a community vote. I will, of course, include this essential quote so that there's symmetry of information.
mutual respect - and I expect to hold myself to such a standard as well.I do hope that, in the same way that I respected your project's intentions, @hivewatcher will permit the community vote to complete over the course of 1 week so that we may collectively decide upon the curation of such content (if any). I'm more than willing to accept differences of opinion and to work with people with whom I may disagree, but I also expect
Hello.
Thank you very much for your detailed response, explanation and support in fighting abuse.
Vote trading scheme? HSBI is not a vote trading scheme. It is a reward system that has been around for over 6 years.
We are rewarding quality content, quality engagement, and quality participation. Our rewards are public. There are no votes being traded here. This was a disingenuous comment on your behalf.
If you'd like more information about HSBI works, I created a write-up several months ago which may be of use. In case you refuse to read it, @josephsavage, I hope you will be kind enough to explain how HSBI works to @hivewatcher.
Nice little edit there. How is rewarding HSBI and Ecency Points considered abuse? Please do explain your rationale.