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RE: POV - Ariana Grande (Cover by Melitza) - VIBES Week 13 [ENG-ESP]

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This participation comes a bit later than we are accustomed to, due to having many doubts about continuing in the competition.

Just to cut this in the bud. 😅
Everyones free to quit whenever they want. Shame, you are talented, but thats a completely valid course of action.
Just to note... before I came along and started this your top voted post had 12 USD and the introduction to Hive 20 bucks. You averaged 2-3 dollars over the course of last year.
Your top voted Vibes post has 180 USD and you average around 100 USD. Topping the trending page almost every week. Very few people on Hive can say that. And thats because of Vibes. Not to mention that you were second on Vibes in TOTAL few weeks ago.

So... youre extremely ungrateful and unfair.

Until that moment, we had very good feelings about what was happening since the video had achieved many views, many comments, reblogs, and votes from the Hive community.

You received those views on Hive because VIBES curators voted you to the trending page as was the case every single week. You would not receive those views or those comments without Vibes. Case to point your Billie Eillish and Oh Holly Night covers you posted both received $0.00 USD before Vibes was a thing.

Our ethics and values do not allow us to harass our audience, because so far on this and other platforms we have not needed to do so.

So sharing with your audience your entry and telling them to vote for you is "harassment" now? Wow.
See, in Web2, when you have songs on a Radio, and they make a TOP 10-20 list every month and have people vote their favorites its one of the most common "engagement tactics" Radios have. They dont call it harassment.

Vibes exists to grow the Hive user base and that is achieved by supporting excellent musicians on a weekly basis.
The musicians return the favor by sharing their Vibes content with their fan bases which in turn HELP THEM AS WELL because different fans get introduced to different musicians. Everyone benefits from it!

Even though you wrote a lot dumb and unfair stuff here... ill just chalk it up to misplaced enthusiasm for now.
It took a lot of effort to put Vibes together so I can reward all of you and I earn from Vibes less than some musicians here. I basically earn from 1-2 posts per week.
I have a very short fuse when it comes to ungrateful stupid shit like this.. but again... i wont hold it against you this time. "Although, calling it harassment because people didnt vote you was a bit much I have to admit."

Keep on posting. Help grow Vibes. Everyone will benefit in the end from it.

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I agree with everything @lordbutterfly has said here, the Vibes Team is in unison, gratitude is the best attitude to have, humbleness, humility and character are keys to being a great musician as well when connecting with the audience, being a part of the community and supporting, encouraging and inspiring others through music.

And it goes without saying @melitzamusic is the only artist to hold two 2nd place prizes, as of now, and we receive multiple hundreds of entries, and other people also deserve recognition and shine. Even last week 1st place winner @ibukundeborah was the best in my opinion, and that's how the community voted her as well, even though other entries could also have won 1st place, including @melitzamusic's entry, this is the reality of competitions involving the fair community voting process, everyone is involved, and the support we receive is because of Vibes' existence thanks to @lordbutterfly and @silentscreamer for founding it and securing the investors behind it to reward everyone

Vibes is a great opportunity for us all and I am thankful to be a part of it. I hope everyone else realizes that also and shares the same sentiments to want to push it forward and expand it for the benefit of the whole community. Big things are on the horizon.

@melitzamusic "To our surprise, we saw how publications won awards for votes that did not correspond to the reactions and views of their videos, basically, they have votes from people who don’t even take the time to watch their videos."

Please research what a curation trail is in detail. Upvotes on a post through curation and curation trails for an entry does not reflect actual users upvoting the entry as some users are signed up for a curation trail which means if I create a curation trail, and 10 people join it, whatever and whoever I upvote, those 10 accounts from those users also upvote what I upvote, everytime, and some whale accounts have hundreds of people on their curation trail and that does not translate to the actual support or views of a Vibes Entry posted here on the Blockchain. Hence, why the support and votes shown on a Post isn't reflected through the support and votes from the Community voting process before we announce the winners.

@verbal-d, I am sorry that you got confused and did not understand what I mean, I am not referring to upvotes, I am referring to votes in the poll that have nothing to do with the interactions of the publications in hive. For example: What's the use of having 70 votes in a poll when that same publication has 40 views in hive, and the other 30 views where are they? they don't see the video? they don't see the videos of others? the public votes are just inflated numbers that don't interact with the vibes community? it's not the first time it happens, I'm sure you have seen this pattern happen more than once.

It's a good question, thanks for the explanation, votes aren't solely based on the views of only the Hive Post, because entries are being crossed posted on the Web2 platforms, and some votes are coming in from newly created Hive accounts from the onboarding process and they saw the entry on tiktok, youtube, X twitter, then they make the required Hive account and vote for the entry on Hive for the Community Voting poll, but they didn't view the Hive Post that had also the video or link there because they viewed it somewhere else. And we are working behind the scenes to make the competition better, more fair, reduce any possible ways for manipulation and so forth. The winners who have won so far up until now, have been definitely deserving and worthy, and the judging process will only get better with more effort and care.

You are not understanding our point or our criticism; it seems you consider it a personal attack when we are complaining about a weakness in the system.

@lordbutterfly, it's disappointing that you don't take a moment to understand what this is about and instead jump into defensive mode, trying to humiliate me and dismiss my words by calling them 'ungrateful stupid shit' because your ego prevents you from seeing beyond. Your system has flaws; it can improve, but that only happens if we discuss these things. I'm not a sheep who will applaud everything you do just to get your approval and votes. Respect for myself and my values is more important than any fear or desire to please you. Moreover, you're disrespectful.

The issue I'm discussing in my post is the inconsistency between poll votes and post views and how that affects the results. For example: What's the point of having 70 votes in a poll when the same post has only 40 views on Hive? Where are the other 30 views? Are people not watching the video? Are they not engaging with other creators' videos? It's not the first time this has happened; I'm sure you've seen this pattern occur more than once.

I appreciate not needing to use profanity to express myself. The phrase “pain in the ass” used in my post was directed at me by one of the judges, @silentscreamer, during the Twitter Space in week 12; I quoted her words. I’ve participated 13 times, contributing positively to this community. It’s disappointing that you treat me as foolish and disrespectful when you’re the one being disrespectful.

I am not ungrateful for expressing my opinion. Additionally, in my post, I mentioned that through Vibes, I acquired a tool (MIDI controller) to continue growing outside this platform. But it seems you only read what you want to read, not what I actually wrote.

That gain has been because of my work and my effort in this community, giving my best in every submission, I don't think HIVE curators will vote anything that comes their way, if not something really worthwhile. That's what I always appreciate in each of my posts on VIBES, you can go and check it out with all the pleasure, as well as you took the time to come and say rude things in this post. Still, I didn't understand what you mean by all my views are due to the vibes curators, the upvotes are done before the judges selection. From day one I got good upvotes from hive curators and good feedback from users. I take the time to make a good thumbnail that attracts attention, a good post with a text that best describes my participation, I leave my thanks and I always interact in the comments with the users. I also understand that the big upvotes are made by hive curators recognized for many years, or is it that you are the one who tells them who to vote for? I don't understand what you mean by that.

We will not give you more money because you complained. We will not change the voting system to add views and comments that are a direct result of the curators voting you.

You are incredibly ungrateful but you will figure that out on your own. ;)

And by the way. I already answered with a NO to your proposal, very nicely. You were obviously not happy with that and are now saying we are "harassing" people because you didnt like my response.

you giving some people a good opportunity bro!

Some people dont understand Vibes exists for everyone, not just for them.

The Vibes team has influence and control of many of the biggest whale curator accounts on Hive, which also has curation trails of other smaller whales accounts that automatically upvote whatever we choose to upvote on an entry. The majority of those Hive Curators work with Vibes and we upvote Vibes entries with those accounts according to the effort and quality as fairly as possible.