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RE: Why Most People Will Never Be Self-reliant

I believe we are going to be seeing a growing divide between those that will and those that will not. I mean that in a lot of different ways, but self-reliance and community building is certainly one of them.

There are amazing people doing things humans have never had the ability to do before with the tools we have now, and those people are accelerating. The others a maybe decelerating and the chasm will continue to grow, imo.

I'm not sure there is much to do for those that won't, other than help the few that do change their ways.

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It is a paradox. You can't get out of civilisation. You simply can't. There is no gap, it is rather a mutual condition. The gap is purely mental. The off-grid person can only go off the grid because the employee goes to work so that the products that are needed as a self-supporter can be mass-produced through external supply (solar technology, batteries, etc.). So the city dweller/worker supplies the so-called dropout. Those who cannot or do not want to do it themselves support those who want to. But those who want to are dependent on the fact that there are those who do not want to or cannot.

So I would say that there is no one who is faster or slower, but a field within which things are mutually dependent. One does not work without the other. Neither is therefore superior/inferior to the other, but simply a fact of difference and contrast.

Since I am one of those who in all probability will not go off the grid, nothing needs to be done for me. I help myself. But in other ways, of which there are plenty ;)

Those that will and those that will not.... I'm not sure those that don't will be able to be saved. I mean that in a way where the world goes on with so much devide. Those of us growing in a direction of self-reliance may be too busy sustaining one another at a certain point.

If they show no effort what so ever to male their lives better, after a while all I can do is give up

I pretty much agree. I don't think its worth working too hard to convince others that they should do more for themselves or to do the right thing.

When and if they decide to make the change, plenty of us will be here for them, but they better be prepared to add value.