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RE: Hive marketing. Being downvoted by @spaminator for expressing my emotions or for being vegetarian??? Wtf???

in Proof of Brain4 years ago (edited)

Have you read$0.02 downvotes. You're all acting like she's being stomped for no reason. How about you guys do your own due diligence before throwing a fit about it? her posts? All she's doing is posting dumbed down versions of other people's works. Look them up one by one - @spaminator only started downvoting when she started posting crap. Up until her work was hers, @spaminator didn't get involved. Also, the only thing @spaminator did was give her a heads up about it, using


@wil.metcalfe

@Spaminator has clearly gone off the rails... or revealed their true nature to the community.

Goddamn, man. You're so edgy.


@antisocialist

I'm saddened that this tragedy has befallen you.

They're $0.02 downvotes. TWO CENTS! Nobody's grandma died. Take it down a notch. Specially when she got fucking 8 dollars for dumbing down a wikipedia article.

@logiczombie

vigilantism

I don't know if they get it right all the time, but they're not wrong on this one. Of course you are complaining about it, though. Like why the hell not?

@davemccoy

I'm sorry this is happening to you @maylenasland. I hope you get some answers and hopefully someone with power takes an initiative to fix this kind of thing.

Downvote value: two. cents. TWO. CENTS.

UPDATE: WAIT, IT'S NOT EVEN TWO CENTS. IT'S 0.002!

Thanks for not turning off your brains while commenting, @scholaris.pob, @uwelang.

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I was very careful to not assign blame, though it should be pretty apparent where that lays now that HW has opened the database they work with, eh?

I am terribly saddened that she couldn't take the time to create original content to post.
That doesn't bode well for her continued persistence in our game.

Beyond that, this looks like a dustup over nothing, to me.

My advice is create 'good' original content and this will all blow away like it never happened.

!popcorn

!BEER


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This long long crying article and comments is for $0.002? Really? I made a donation campaign and IT WAS DOWNVOTED but I didn't cry out. yeah it hurt, I was sad that there are such people who can downvote that but ... Life goes on ...

I was punched in the face once, and I didn't make a bigdeal about it, so everyone else should just stfu.

It hurts, I know, I have one user that downvotes almost every publication that I make since my very first article... I'm sad, but I can't do anything...

The "adults" should implement a decentralized jury system.

ALGORAND implements a dispute resolution system where any transaction (post) can only be disputed (flagged) once, and when a transaction is disputed, 1000 random users are notified and if they fail to respond within a set time frame (say, 48 hours) their option is forfeit and it goes to another random user. A transaction can only be canceled (removed) if a 60% consensus is reached by the randomized jury. If there is no 60% consensus (even if it's a 599 to 401 split) then the transaction remains unaffected. There is no penalty for simply being disputed, there is no "held pending trial" status. There is a small incentive paid to jury members for their participation and there is an added bonus for voting with the majority if there is a 60% majority (and the votes are hidden from all participants until voting is completed).

Oh I saw my "bad guy" also downvotes you :(

Is this an idea or this is working thing?

ALGORAND is a crypto currency listed on coinbase.

ALGORAND uses the dispute resolution system outlined above.

And by the way... it’s not about the amount in question... it’s about the principal and method of the matter.

For another angle you can read my recent post. It’s the unfriendliness... and even political bent behind this sort of stuff... @regenerette is not the only one effected. If it effects me... then it’s certainly effecting many smaller accounts. Many of whom may not have done anything other than express a differing opinion.

This method of hive integrity is doing nothing but undermining its very social foundation. We won’t have anything to build on if this continues.

It’s not about what...

It’s about how.

Trust me... my brain is turned on.

I’m confident in what is say...

And I can honestly say...

How can I tell my friends, family, and famous about Hive when our social environment is so unfriendly.

it’s not about the amount in question

Spamminator IS RIGHT! Spamminator only showed up when they were RIGHT IN DOING SO! Whatever your case or whoever else's case is doesn't change that spamminator is right in signaling her account as spam.

If they are right then go check their recent actions against my account.

Intelligence is the ability to zoom in AND zoom out at the same time. You have got to be able to look at both sides of the coin and realize that the answer is some where In between. It’s the edge that gives us the edge...

Life isn’t black and white, good or bad... it’s relative and changing. It’s dynamic not simple.

Granting this “authority” to an individual (or even a group of individuals) goes against the very ethos this blockchain was designed around...

A decentralized censorship resistant way to human.

This functionality needs to be intelligently designed into the code and implemented using a jury of the community. DPOS is the answer... not @spaminator or @hivewatcher.

Hive and it’s community is the answer to spam and plagiarism.

If you had read through my comments carefully you would have realized what I was saying.

Please step away from the key board and give this some thought before proceeding.

Trust me... it’s in your best interests.

I am done speaking with you friend.

This functionality needs to be intelligently designed into the code and implemented using a jury of the community. DPOS is the answer... not

ALGORAND implements a dispute resolution system where any transaction (post) can only be disputed (flagged) once, and when a transaction is disputed, 1000 random users are notified and if they fail to respond within a set time frame (say, 48 hours) their option is forfeit and it goes to another random user. A transaction can only be canceled (removed) if a 60% consensus is reached by the randomized jury. If there is no 60% consensus (even if it's a 599 to 401 split) then the transaction remains unaffected. There is no penalty for simply being disputed, there is no "held pending trial" status. There is a small incentive paid to jury members for their participation and there is an added bonus for voting with the majority if there is a 60% majority (and the votes are hidden from all participants until voting is completed).

Intriguing! And to me this sounds like the most plausible way forward yet! This is the sort of spam + plagiarism identification and dispute resolution we need hardwired right into Hive’s core. We are ignorant to think that we can scale effectively and in a friendly way by throwing humans at the problems we encounter on our blockchain. This is the way it’s been done for thousands of years of human history... but that doesn’t mean that it’s the right or most intelligent way to do it. In fact, anyone who knows anything about crypto, knows that we are innovating better ways to human using cryptography and blockchain for a F&);$?! reason. Here at Hive we need to have a serious wakeUP call and then get off our speculating a$$’s and get back to work.

Thank you so much for bringing this to the conversation! It’s invaluable.

The oligarch vigilantes like to pretend they represent "community consensus" but what we really need is a jury.

Hells to the yeahs we do. Isn’t this what DPOS is supposed to do? That’s why when I see this sort of stuff here on Hive I shake my head in dismay and even disgust! This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to innovate new and better ways to human! That’s what crypto is F)$@?;! about isn’t it? So I see all this as small minds doing what small minds do... meanwhile... I’m going to continue on solving bigger and bigger problems.

You can see the success of a man or woman based on the size of problems they are busy solving...

@felipejoys @maylenasland

"regeneratte" had been previously caught for mass scamming with plagiarism on alter account called "regeneretta".





https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@regenerette/btc-eth-and-doge-a https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@regenerette/crypto-music-mozik-moz-the-next-promising-nft-music-platform https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@regenerette/mind-body-and-soul-with-no-crypto-relationship https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@regenerette/tether-usdt-officially-traded-on https://hive.blog/leofinance/@regenerette/basketball-and-crypto-in-the-blockchain

She was blacklisted but appealed and a chance was given to her so we removed the blacklist.

But she refused to stop scamming and plagiarised again. This time by stealing someone's movie review writing by paraphrasing the words. The second time, the account was permanently blacklisted. Also, she appeared to also scam by using identity deception on her 3rd account called appears to also scam on the account "alixspot".
https://hive.blog/hive-120586/@alixspot/healthy-food-and-advice-from#@hivewatcher/quqj5k

This just nailed permanent blacklist.

Now, the user as many similar scammers like her who have no sense of wrongdoing, and self-criticism started to troll Hivewatchers spreading lies that she was blacklisted because we tried to censor the content of the posts.

These troll scammers think that on Hive, they can scam because everyone is anonymous and no one will ever find out like in real life.
If they disagree with being blacklisted for stealing someone else's content to use it to steal from Hive Ecosystem, they can try Steemit instead. No one will ban them there and it is free reign for scamming.
Or they can try Blurt. It is even better for scammers because no one will downvote them there.
The Hive ecosystem does not owe them anything. Getting rid of yet another abuser does everyone a favor.

+1! Keep up the great work.

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Hive ecosystem owes respect and transparency to its users.

Respect is earned not given.
Scamming and abusing/exploiting the Hive ecosystem is disrespectful.

People like @spaminator are doing that right now...he's exploiting some sort of ideas in his mind (unless we talk about a bot) and abusing his power to downvote any comment of mine. This sounds like abuse and exploitation for me.

You keep saying "scam".

Can you be slightly more specific?

You’re telling these people lies.


Blacklisting me for not Wanting to use your Hive name on my crypto website which stands for our Corean company in Wyoming?
First check ur facts and then u can call people names. Missed quoting 4 times, rephrased part of a sport article once with a general info on @regenerette On @regeneretta I had no such issues, you just asked me to insert Hive on one of my websites to prove it is mine. I have asked you to email me directly using the contact there to check that. It’s been more than 6 months and you’re spreading lies about me without Even checking your acusations. You seem quite unreliable and manipulative.

Alixspot - u r stating ITS mine. I want you to prove it.

U’r nothing but a reminescence of what @patrice did much more ethically and fair.

More and more people will start seeing you for who you are and question your role in Hive. Measures will be taken.

I will be around to show others through Any means in or outside Hive how you manipulate the Game in ITS different aspects.

"Missed quoting 4 times".
Not just a scammer but a compulsive liar who feels entitled and special.

Do you think that people are fools or children to believe in stories of forgetting to quote 5 articles that you plagiarised? (+1 paraphrased)
Someone can forget to add the source once, not 5 times.
Besides that adding the source, would just change these articles in nothing more but copypasta spam with zero original content added.

Anyway, as you keep claiming that there was no plagiarism, please verify that these articles are yours by adding the word Hive in their profile descriptions of the authors of each of these articles:




https://en.blogtienao.com/Which-coin-should-you-choose-from-bitcoin-ethereum-and-dogecoin%3F/ https://en.blogtienao.com/mozik-moz-coin/ https://www.thesacredscience.com/the-hidden-benefits-of-meditation/ https://en.blogtienao.com/The-last-USD-tether-is-officially-traded-on-coinbase/ https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/28/230-million-dollars-spent-on-nba-top-shot.html

I am Entitled just as Any other Hive person. -#ownership #freespeach #decentralization

The only liar here is you.

5 times forgetting to insert the source from more than 1000
Articles written up to that point.

It’s been months since you haven’t checked if the info from @regeneretta comes from my site.

Yes!
I am special for what I have done for Hive and for everything I do, generally. Keep that in Mind.

People can check the crap you have started along with hivewatchers since March. In my case.

As for you downvoting me, you’re Gonna get much more from Hive communities in the future, as things are shifting by second now.

Now fuck Off!

Go serve your Masters.

What is your personally preferred, current, OBJECTIVE definition of "spam"?

Also it's no goddamn wonder you're flagged by them after you get $37 dollars for congratulating yourself on your birthday. That's $37 dollars not going to actual high quality content. And you're complaining about it. Isn't that self-entitled! You think you deserve it, but not many people would agree with you, you know what I'm saying?

I never asked for a birthday reward. People gave it freely. Why should anyone hold that against me... seriously? LoL! This is getting a bit silly.

Why should anyone hold that against me...

BECAUSE REWARDS COME FROM A POOL! Read up how HIVE works so I don't feel like I'm talking to a rock.

And anyway... what’s wrong with that post! I happen to think it’s got a lot of value in it... a video sneak peak (that took an entire night to produce, a whole day to shoot, model and photographers, the whole gamut) Also an exciting announcement telling people about the launch of a new body transformation fitness program. Each session in the real world would cost upwards of $100 each. And on top of that... I decided to work on the Hive Blockchain all day... on my birthday because I like spending time with all the positive people here... and that’s not worth something? Hmmmm... sounds to me like you need to take a little step back... yes?! 😉

shut the fuck up. muted

Hahaha! That actually works best now doesn’t it...? Seems to me that your mind isn’t in the best of places atm but if you ever want to chat in more pleasant terms... I’m A.O.K. with it. 🙃

Muting is much more effective than downvoting.

I did nothing wrong. As a body of work. As a hive maximalist. Someone who’s never stopped investing in the community and in hive even from $8 down to $0.10. As someone building their business on this blockchain and contributing my experience, expertise, and spreading good will one #HighFive at a time... why wouldn’t some of that good will naturally come back to me. I shouldn’t have to defend myself to small minded thinking like this... your quite silly in your way of thinking friend. Shall we compare transaction logs here on Hive? Perhaps then you won’t have a platform to stand on... I’m not even going to bother looking because I already know what I’m going to find!

I wish you well. I wish you nothing but positivity and good luck here on Hive.

Let’s talk again under better cercomstances.

Shall we compare transaction logs here on Hive?

You've just proved your intellectual worth right there and then.

It’s true. I send out Hive to people doing good things and have been doing so for the past +2 years. It’s called a digital #HighFive. I’m continually powering up thousands of dollars worth in Bitcoin. And I have NEVER powered down once except when I decided to leave Steem with the Hive community. I can stand tall in anyone’s company... and that is the trust that’s built one transaction at a time.

This is intelligence behind this statement.

What’s the point in attempting to pick me apart. What happens when I take a closer look at what your doing here on Hive? Does it stand up? And anyways... why would I thrust myself upon someone as a judge of that anyways. We are all owners and have every right to proceed in whatever way we deem right on this blockchain.

I’m telling you though... good wil goes much further than negativity. And positivity is 10 times stronger than anything negative.

Well! That’s it! I’m don’t giving my vacation time to the likes of you and this silly conversation. Chow for now fellow. 🙂

why wouldn’t some of that good will naturally come back to me

BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE REWARD POOL IS FOR! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

Now look at who’s getting upset? Why you hating/judging friend? The people who saw the value I was bringing already upvoted the post... and for good reasons. And you think that by adding negative thought to the mix it’s going to make the world a better place... for shame!

This is some of what I’m eluding to in my recent posts and comments.

We can’t win with unfriendliness...

We win by staying classy and rewarding friendliness when we see it and quality effort when it’s apparent.

Please take a step back and think about this.

The way in which your thinking is a loosing game.

What's "the reward pool" "for" exactly?

"The pool" doesn't care about content, only stake.

People could upvote a birthday announcement or just self-vote their own workout journal, "the pool" isn't "changed" any more or any less.

How can it possibly be considered "a crime" for someone to get large upvotes for a non-copyright-infringement birthday announcement?

It is not all about the money, you know? It is about what you're doing to people in Hive. But thanks for insulting my posts for no reason. What do you mean by dumbed down versions? Dumbed-down versions of who? Making a review of a book is a dumbed down version of what? Really? Is there all you can do? That's hillarious!

Have you read my posts... my comments?

I’m not condoning anything... what I’m pointing out is the unfriendly way in which procedures and policies are being implemented. As things stand I’m not going to be able to open my mouth again to tell people outside this blockchain to come here... look at all the valise legitimate comments that were downvotes by the @spaminator account. You can’t tell me that this is “good” for our blockchain and community of active OWNERS.

There’s no doubt about the need to watch for plagiarism and spam. But how we deal with it matters just as much.

If you look closely... you will notice me coach @Regenerette about how to avoid and improve...

My gentleman’s approach is designed to be as effective and caring as possible. Outside eyes are watching how we deal with our own... PR is and moral is at all time lows on Hive right now... and the price is corresponding to that sentiment time to wake up... yes?

look at all the valise legitimate comments that were downvotes by the @spaminator account

They're 0.002 downvotes that didn't take any rewards and didn't hide her comments. They literally make no difference in her rewards! There weren't even upvotes in most of them! Jesus, man. But there you go again "approaching it like a gentleman"...

Oh, yes...and we cannot know the reason for that. I just have to understand that it is a dumbed version of other posts. Like, are you for real, people?

giphy

Giphy does not own the copyrights to that image and therefore is guilty of copyright infringement.

That's the source still...should we report them?? 😂

Enforcement is capricious and tyrannical.

POLITICS IS AN ARGUMENT ABOUT WHO CONTROLS THE POLICE (POLITIA)

has clearly gone off the rails... or revealed their true nature to the community.

So you're saying this wasn't edgy. You're saying this was your gentleman's approach. Man, you have to work on your gentleman's approach.

No worries, you're truly a gentleman 😂