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RE: THE UNTRENDING REPORT: The 150 Biggest Downvotes On Hive In the Last 7 Days.

This specific post you made was upvoted by deepdives at the time.

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My experience with the activist community recently was extremely disheartening with how I saw the egregious and hostile attacks by witnesses and large stake holders in both deep dives and information while engaging daily on content in the communities not to mention lack of support and attacks from within the community that was reported to the FBI and caused unnecessary police presence in my neighborhood and helicopters over my house for days.

People reported you to the FBI and they flew helicopters over your house? I am not sure what this is supposed to mean or what you are referring to.

The curation trail of Deep Dives + Informationwar is over 500k HP in total. We can't upvote every post, we upvote the majority of them in #informationwar #deepdives or in the iw/dd community.

I really got 0 to minimal support from the community with the exception of @kennysgaminglife who has always, when push came to shove, supported these communities and myself. So I can not complain too much. It is just if community members wont support my content and make threats of violence on me while hivewatchers sits by, laughs and DMs me to say stop upvoting comments, we condone threats of violence with our silence but not upvoting comments so watch out.

So I am not excited about these communities on HIVE that should be better supportted in a decentralized crypto space. But plutocracy has soured the experienced.

The support we have has been built up over 4 years and we continue to grow. We have upvoted many posts that get downvoted in our communities and most of the time we easily overpower the downvoter, that has changed in the last few months as larger downvoters are downvoting. We are growing as best we can. I've put thousands of hours into this project over the years, its extremely time consuming. If you know how we can raise tons of HP and become able to negate downvotes I am all ears, if you want to start getting the word out to others and putting 10 hours + each week into growing the effort, or start your own effort, please do. We need all the help we can get. This is extremely time intensive and stressful for what we do and we get nothing for it as we are all volunteers.

I don't see any posts you made in the last 3 years that were informationwar type posts on your main name? Am I missing something? Most of your posts on https://hive.blog/@dynamicgreentk/posts are also not within the scope of Informationwar, I see we upvoted a few of them that were when you did post them. We only upvote specific posts related to the effort. https://hive.blog/informationwar/@informationwar/about-the-decentralized-truth-movement-and-informationwar

I will consider delegating HP to your cause but the downvotes and lack of witness support and silence for these hostile attacks in our communities of Truth really impacts my mental health negatively.

Chasing high APRs, curating artists and posting about tokens has helped me better use HIVE.

I didnt spend 5g on Hive power delegation to curate content just to be dissed and ignored by the entire community or have the content I curated flagged to 0 causing unneeded financial stress.

I don't blame you for not liking what's happening, I don't like it either. But let's also be real about whats happening here, the super majority of posts are not downvoted to 0 in #informationwar or #deepdives, a few are occasionally, so this isn't an all out war that everyone should be super stressed out about. When the downvotes happen we step in and negate them and move on with our day. We have tried reasoning with whales before and they don't want to hear it, there's nothing else that can be done in negotiating with them at this point, they downvote we upvote, we have more upvotes than them.

If everyone pulled together we could stop this permanently, there are more minnows and dolphins than there are whales, the minnows and dolphins combined have way more HP than whales do. We could outvote them as witnesses and get people into power who would do good things. We aren't there yet, though that movement is starting to take off.

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There is a reason I still have my infowars token staked. I figured they were from you. I looked at deepdives and information war as the same community especially since tags are similar.

Did you look at the link I provided and read the comments? The person making multiple threats of violence was who was reported but still caused unneeded police presence in my life for days. just giving an example.

I dont just aimlessly consume content as not everyone can be a @ura-soul who in my opinion is the most well versed and solid content creator for the truth communities. There is a lot of people who want to focus on youtube personalities and Q larps that I honestly cant digest. Seeing such an intelligent and well informed individual getting ruthlessly attacked it disheartening.

The witness votes expiring is something to look forward too but how impactful it will be is to be determined as some are concerned they can simply use their stake to vote for themselves or their friends which highlights how community governance really only applies to the amount of stake one holds.

As I have said in comments outside this thread, I think DPoS will take some time to even out on to the community in regards to witness voting and governance to better reflect the community as a whole. As it is though everything seems reflective of real life on HIVE in comparison to the real world so perhaps we have transcended or added to DPoS in weird way outside of stake.

Maybe these people you onboard can be more of JamesC types that invest into the community and help increase the overall stake of the community. I agree things can change over night. I appreciate your steadfast commitment to the community.

Thanks for your kind words and support. I am working on a website for Hive that should be live in the near future that hosts Untrending (downvote) info as well as shows the effect that the witness decay system would have if it were live right now, so at least we can know what the future holds in that sense.

Bringing in wealthier information specialists and 'truthers' into the blockchain is a great idea but my attempts to do that so far haven't gone anywhere - partially because people don't see a clear 100% reliable investment and partially for silly reasons, such as that they don't find the UI and signup process straightforward enough!

There is a reason content creators chose LBRY over hive for content creation and why LBRY is more successful than it should be can arguably be attributed to the years of massive downvotes towards the hyper connected truth community that moves together as they are either censored, banned or downvoted where ever they go because of centralized interests.

LBRY and most/all other options are actually centralised by design and this will most likely become more of a problem as more time passes and more experience is gained. I think that a layer 2 solution on Hive has the best chance of providing a true solution for 'the truth community', but in 100% of the examples of these people trying to solve the problem that I have seen so far, they either lack understanding or get greedy - leading to not much at all. Donald Turnip's 'Truth' network will be the next big flop most likely. lol.

On a Bitcoin standard, the organization with the most inefficient bureaucracy and the greatest infestation of parasites dies. It does not “live long and prosper.”

Thanks for sharing. The themes of that article are all important ones, but I disagree about the fine points of some of them, which leads to a radical deviation in perspective in key areas. Perhaps the clearest and simplest relates to:

On a Bitcoin standard, bureaucracies go bankrupt. They cannot grow into the abominations we see around us today, in which useless idiots work bullshit jobs just to pretend like they’re doing something, when in fact, they’re leeches.

The huge problem with this is that ALL of the existing 'leeches' and bureaucracies are equally capable of becoming Bitcoin whales due to their prior activities - many probably already have. From here they are capable of being precisely the people he claims are the worst around - those who do nothing and add nothing to society. Despite the benefits of cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin, it is extremely dishonest to try to point the finger at almost everyone else while avoiding and denying our own involvement. To me, trying to make out like everyone who isn't into Bitcoin is literally evil is not really much different to Marx trying to say that everyone who has wealth is evil. The next Marx can easily come along and claim that it's the Bitcoin 'class' that are the leeches and set about executing everyone on the Blockchain! ;)

Well to a certain point this new generation is completely oblivious to the nature of fiat, authoritarian governments and ideologies. Most were newborns or not born when 9/11 happened and think anti-facist mean corporations and government must work together and tax us more for the greater good. It's nuts. But most, aside from being young and dumb, one could argue that anyone who was old enough to remember 9-11, the middle east wars, enron, wall street bail outs in 08 etc knows damn well fiat is controlled evil assholes who want us enslaved as well as had their pensions, income, hours at work and overall value of their savings diminished dramatically to prop up the 1%. Not to mention that these bail outs, in America at least, went to foriegn countries and corporations with 5% give or take actually going to the people who are the tax mules and has cause epic inflation. So yeah I would argue a majority of people know better.

Yeah @theouterlight lost me when he admitted to posting to rumble the very supposed exclusive content that was made available to Hive and his personal web 2 site. But really that was the last straw as he stopped doing doing docs and refused to do his own research on Ivermectin and simply phoned a friend on it.

I think whoever created LEO's front end as well as seo optimized it is brilliant. Perhaps @leofinance devs can help or provide pointers. But I am sure you got this. You are hyper intelligent and nothing can stop you.

Provide a platform to highlight downvotes is brilliant and kind of makes these people building projects on Hive maybe think twice before downvoting to be jester or because they want to destroy an account because of political reasoning.

https://peakd.com/hive-122315/@dynamicgreentk/ivermectin-what-is-it

Yeah downvoting key people like @lukewearechange (which last I saw that was happening less since it was shown his support for hive on twitter and amount of traffic he brings to hive.) and @highimpactflix does not help with onboarding when people like Tim pool who is building a huge business is close buddies with Luke and undoubtedly sees and understand the situation clear since it has carried over from Steem. Heck, I can not even tell if Highimpactflix was hacked recently or took back over his account from the people that manage it or if Luke really is managing his own account since it would appear he does nothing with his earnings here and only reposts his youtube videos.

We did not make infowars token, that was @ackza I believe. We don't have a token for the informationwar group.

v4vapid is releasing a deep dives token soon.

I hope we can get more people like JamesC into the community, we are trying.