I write this without fear
Can I just point out, I've written without fear here since September 2016. I'm doing it right now, as a matter of fact.
Fearlessly creating content, saying whatever I want, doing whatever I want.
Do you realize that is the same as majority of people here? These people are not afraid to post and talk. Nor do they need to be. Why would anyone be afraid to post actual content then sit and talk about it?
Do you realize a lot of the people who instill fear in others around here consider themselves to be small (how they view themselves, not how others view them)? But they always point to what they perceive as the top and say it's them creating an environment to be afraid of Finding people going around instilling fear and negativity is easier to come across than the happenings and events they insist you need wary of or run away from.
For some reason that mindset is attractive to others and they latch on, becoming afraid, telling others to be afraid, as they write fearlessly, contradicting everything they say. It's so weird.
And for the record. Yep. I remember you. I may have been gone but I recognized your avatar and name as soon as I came back.
I do think there are some that may not speak up when they see someone else being treated how they consider unethically. It is mostly a fear of shooting the goose laying the golden eggs.
When I say no fear. I don't care if I am targeted and down voted into oblivion.
There are certainly a lot of people that such is not the case.
In some poorer parts of the world people are actually supplementing their income with the crypto from this.
They certainly wouldn't want to rock the boat.
As to you. I never stated what YOU are doing. You asked me if I truly believed something. I answered.
I think it's only natural some folks would sit on the sidelines. Plenty of people don't even follow this platform politics stuff. Plenty of unique outlooks on life. Not everyone subscribes to the same belief systems. We're not herded into echo chambers here so it's far more common to run into more people who see things differently than those who share the same.
If you look around, I'd say that would be the majority here. Glaring majority. If it was common to be downvoted into oblivion, you'd not see any posts out there. You wouldn't see those folks having fun. It appears, at a glance, those folks aren't even thinking about being afraid. Doesn't even cross their mind. And for good reason. There's no need to be afraid.
And I'd say you're insulting their integrity. So if they come along and see that, should they spend their day giving you shit or just keep moving? Nobody here likes seeing others being treated like shit. Nobody here wants to be in a big puddle of shit.
Those in need, the ones you mentioned. They are not pansies. They are some of the hardest people on this planet. If you think they don't stand up for themselves or others, because money, I'd fully disagree. And there's nothing wrong with getting your priorities straight either.
Did you see the PH debacle? Basically a cult leader preying on those in desperate situations, setting up something akin to a charity scam, taking the lion's share and offering them crumbs. Those people were afraid to step out of line out of fear of losing support. Because that's how cults work. One instills fear and then maintains it.
I bet that is true of quite a few of them. I've spoken to some of them and know them. I know why they do what they do.
I actually didn't mention anyone by name. The person here that inspired this post and that the title is a quote from him only is known because he replied saying the only part of the post he agreed with was the title. That was fitting since it was his words that formed the title. :)
I did not start this post targeting any one person. I targeted a behavior.
I still 100% stand by that.
You are likely correct. I can tell that just by looking at the content being posted and studying it. Different interests. Yet it also can give a mental picture of perhaps interests and lifestyles.
Some topics are going to create minds that pay attention to things and react to things that most other people likely will not. They likely ignore it out of habit, or have simply never even noticed such things.
Though I will say that usually when I end up posting about down votes it is not someone like @lucylin that triggers that response. He was just the most blatant and current ongoing example I could find for my post.
It is actually the new person who was excited they got $1 or something like that who is suddenly getting upset and wondering what they did wrong when someone down votes it to $0.25 or something like that.
I don't usually bother writing a post. Yet I will try to reply to them telling them about how the reward pool works, how power works, and I'll try to reassure them.
It is usually after I've had to do that several times that I might be inspired to write a post.
Some noob comes along, gets downvoted, for whatever reason. This reason doesn't matter in this scenario.
Since it seems so many would prefer the whole concept of downvoting remain open to interpretation, here's what happens next.
If that noob manages to attract attention to this downvote they received, whichever mindset gets to them first is who wins the proverbial information war.
We have one group who believes THIS. We have another group who believes THAT. A group who thinks X. And a group focused on Y.
The THATs got to him. The noob follows the THATs. What other option is available? The noob has merely become a product of their environment. A few more noobs have also been approached by the THATs and have followed along.
Now the THATs write a post. The noobs come along to see the show and have their beliefs reinforced.
Instead they see THIS. And THIS is making a whole lot of sense. But THAT makes it fucking impossible to even be able to talk. So THIS goes nowhere and THAT does nothing.
Nah some of us can talk just fine with people that we disagree with. It is just not common to find people that are civil enough to do so. It is a dying skill but one we should strive to cultivate.
For example: I just had a rather lengthy discussion about this with @acidyo and it was largely on this but it did also drift into other topics.
If we were not civil to each other it would not have happened.
Likewise you and I don't always see eye to eye. Yet sometimes we do.
Yet we still don't seem to have a problem talking to each other. :)
I actually added a little more to that line. Was just being a bit creative and jokey as I make a point.
Do you know why I'm a little more relaxed about the downvote thing here? I just see society. This whole thing could pop off at any second, right? Just like life. But it doesn't. Just like life. Yet there are isolated incidents where things go awry. Just like life. And much like life, people focus only on those incidents, leave out the rest, then want to make strange new rules for everyone to follow.
So in this instance you've presented a portion including some superficially sophisticated jury system that clearly solves nothing and breaks itself the first day it goes live. This reminds me of the government.
Why would anyone want that? Just to get Lucy out of a jam? Seems like a little much for one guy...
This wasn't about Lucy. He was simply the most blatant and obvious example that was easy to point out.
Not necessarily. Anything can be what iffed to death. I am not so certain it would break and I did read your back and forth with @logiczombie. I don't see the things you pointed out (mostly almost DDOS style stuff) with regard to it as being something we couldn't plan for. I think it could be modified so that wouldn't be much of an issue. (EDIT: Though I do see the benefit in you pointing it out. Think of as many what ifs as you can, and then see if you can think of solutions. It is easy to shoot things down. Finding solutions can be trickier but that doesn't mean they don't exist.)
As to it bugging people. We already have people actively seeking out posts by people and on subjects they don't like and taking the time to down vote them. Rather than simply ignoring them.
I am not convinced it'd be a problem. Especially if there was potential reward in participation and if it was opt in/out.
Is it guaranteed to work? No. Is it guaranteed to fail? No.
Is it trying something different that would still keep it decentralized and that mostly bypasses the multiple accounts issue that makes any other things I can think of moot? Yes.
Could it fail? Yes.
Can we revert if it does? Yes.
Has it ever been done here before? No.
Would it need to be revised over the simple outline @logiczombie presented? Yes.