I can't really provide links to stuff. Sorry. I just assumed everyone knew.
You see, we didn't have those second layer options, no tribe tokens, nothing. If you got downvoted, that was it. Now that these things are actually starting to take shape, if you can't dip into one pool, cut your losses and try another one.
I don't use LEO, since my content doesn't fit. Should I still feel entitled to dip into that pool? I don't mind that I can't use it. I don't feel like I'm losing. If I can earn HIVE but not LEO, should I throw a fit? If I can earn LEO but not HIVE, should I throw a fit? It's all Hive. The consumer base is shared and connected. I don't own POB but I can still support you with this HIVE backed vote. <---- I think I just invented a new term. And I like how HIVE is universal like that. It allows for communities to develop from the ground up with a solid foundation prepared, instead of directly from scratch. Gives everyone a nice leg up.
That was the idea anyway. Something must have got lost in translation along the way. Or maybe folks just haven't figured out a way to frame it properly, in a way that makes sense.
And it's worth mentioning, this approach is far more effective if communities/tribes/businesses/Layer2/whatever work in sustainable ways.
Well, that's too bad, but it's alright. I'll keep searching. We're talking about years and thousands of articles.
I don't think it got lost in translation. I just think HIVE is that big. Your original comment definitely changed my way of thinking. Also, I have to deal with arguments on rewards outside of HIVE so I have some understanding of the issue. Markymark has a point to his concerns just as well as trostparadox everyone else. There's just so much damn emotion involved.
I kind of feel like no matter how perfect the solution, the problems will remain. It's the community and how it defines the issue that matters. If we can get to that point, an agreement, then we're headed in the right direction.
It's years of following the story. Something new to learn every day almost. How long have you been around? I've seen you around, but I don't know you.
Hive is growing, no doubt about that. Many go their own separate ways. Some shell themselves up, so I point out that connection there. That spillover effect and sharing the consumer base is one of the most valuable advantages Hive has to offer. That concept is exactly how cities work. It's how malls work. It's how department stores work so well. Go for milk, come home with three bags. The folks putting up walls; sigh
If more people understood this, they wouldn't work to chase away the things they don't like. This opens the door. Someone can work tirelessly on a game or a community or anything (I'm an artist. I want to set up shop and sell NFTs to go along with my writing), work on it, inject it directly into a solid consumer base. Someone buys an NFT, then goes and tips/votes for a video, goes to the bank (LEO), checks up on the news about their investments; investments they never thought of looking into until they came here to play Splinterlands, or shit post and have fun, not expecting to get rich but still being rewarded.
I don't like the walls either. Right now POB is promoting or 'trending' bullying by this supposed victim highlighted in the post. Lets it slide. I'm looking at it right now. And quite a few of us were called shady by one of the supporters. It's very difficult to not attach emotions to that; and they're not sad emotions. Where I come from, doing shit like that is how you get your ass kicked. Dude is running a contest and offering 100 Hive for people to come up and provide the correct insult (based on the tone and directed towards a specific list of members). And it's tagged 'funny'. LOL! Confirmed bully.
In another comment here I said I've been ignoring POB. I should have done that today, too, probably? Right?
I try not to let it bother me.
I've been sporadic on Hive since about 2019. I mostly stuck to STEM articles until this year with POB. I like the concept of writing what you wanted. I personally like the HIVE concept. POB worked for me.
I tried LEO as I liked that community engagement, but honestly it just wasn't for me. I didn't get that feeling like I did for stem.
It's your choice for ignoring POB or not. In my mind it's neither good nor bad. It's about what works for you. It's what the 1L/2L tokens are about. Personally, I'd like to get it somewhere good. It is very difficult for me to take positions right now. There are too many good arguments on both sides of the aisle.
Marky has great points. I've seen malicious upvoting on Hive and POB (my perspective only). Trost has great points as well as I've seen malicious DV'ing too. I don't know Acid, but I've read some of his posts on Piotr(?) and their activities. I only recently started learning and acting on fraud on HIVE and POB. I never realized there were so many shades of gray. Things are definitely not that easy.
Anyway, have a great evening.
I enjoy STEM content, especially when I have a moment to think clearly. I heard talk they were officially going to add an 'A' to that, and include art (didn't hear it here). Some of what I consider to be my coolest pieces rose up from nothing by allowing pareidolia to take over, then building upon the tricks my eyes played on me. Would be kinda fun to explain that to some scientists someday...
STEMgeeks community/tribe runs a tight ship, from what I've seen.
And to be fair, ignoring POB is impossible. I can still browse much of the content and support with HIVE. Just have bad luck every time I visit the actual site. Always some form of platform politics, trending. This isn't really how I like to spend my time.
Nice meeting you. Have fun out there.
I love STEMGeeks. Their articles are legit. It's a pretty tight ship IMO. I don't think I've had a non-stem job since I was in my late 20s. My entire time in the military was water chemistry and radiation health. I was even in the same fields after I got out. Even though I'm not in either field now, I'm still involved in analysis. It definitely helps to put food on the table.
I have to admit that the drama isn't appealing. Though I do have to say that of any organization at its start without the proper level of communication. Still, considering that this is only a side activity for me I could honestly do without it. I admit that there are uses to pushing buttons, but not over several months. It doesn't do anyone at any layer justice.
It's good to meet you as well. Have a great weekend.