Ecency Front End
After much discussion from the community, we decided there were some key features that are missing from our front end. @leprechaun pointed out that Ecency has most of those features and their code is open source!
@leprechaun also pointed out that he is a dev and could use the code to make new front end for us that would have those features. He made a proposal and a majority of the stake voted yes, so it is underway.
You can learn more by checking out these posts:
- https://www.proofofbrain.io/hive-150329/@proofofbrainio/pob-update-should-i-inject-liquidity-into-the-pob-market-to-raise-funds-for-front-end-development
- https://www.proofofbrain.io/hive-150329/@leprechaun/making-an-ecency-like-proof
- https://www.proofofbrain.io/hive-150329/@leprechaun/pob-for-ecency-funding-proposal-ecency-rewards
Possible POB Store
@amr008 has been pointing out to me that we need use cases for POB. On that note, I have spoken to @thelogicaldude about the possibility of making us a store where things can be bought with POB.
I like the idea of being able to buy (with POB) things that can help people make more content like: laptops, phones, cameras, drones, etc.
@thelogicaldude mentioned that he was already thinking of accepting POB just based on our volume on hive-engine! To get things started we could also just have a section of the store here: https://hivelist.store/shop/
Ads
@amr008 came to me with another great suggestion - Ads. As you may have noticed if you don't have an ad blocker, that we have ads now. I understand that some don't like ads, but I think it is a great thing for the platform and I will explain why.
Anonymous
We're using Anonymous Ads - https://a-ads.com/ so it doesn't track your personal details and doesn't leave any cookies on your computer. It's also great because it pays in BTC and we can send that directly to SWAP.BTC on Hive-Engine so everything will be transparent. You can read more about them and how they compare to their competitors here: https://coinfunda.com/best-cryptocurrency-ad-network/
Monetizing Our Traffic
Our site has grown in traffic quite fast and that should continue to grow overtime if we are doing things right.
Rewarding Our Users
The traffic comes from the users and we want more traffic so it only makes sense to reward them so we can continue to grow.
The Big Question
What should we use the ad revenue/BTC for. I think it should go into rewarding our users, but there are many different things we could do with it including:
- Buying our own ads to increase traffic and new users on our site
- Rewarding top contributors who are distributing lots of votes/POB to newer users that are bringing value to the platform
- Buying POB on the market which could then be burnt or somehow go to the users in the previous point
- Rewarding users through some type of contest that requires adding value to the community in some way
- We could also make a Deisel Pool on TribalDex for SWAP.BTC/POB to give users a direct way to go between POB and BTC
Keep in mind we are talking about very tiny amounts of BTC so it will take time to have very much of a budget at all, but we have to start somewhere.
So if you want to support POB, consider turning off your ad blocker for the site and clicking some ads, but don't buy into any of that crap! lol
Thanks to @ashleykalila for POB dividers
Please let me know in the comments what you think we should do with the BTC that we earn from ads.
also, feel free to join in the discussion on our discord: https://discord.gg/8vBmmtS9ZU
i've turned off my Brave Shield for the POB frontend and am now seeing ads, yay! do ad views generate revenue, or just clicks?
as a rather humorous aside, A-Ads ads might not leave cookies, but Brave blocked their website that you linked for using tracking cookies.
Views do generate revenue just at a much lower rate than clicks, which sucks but its good in the sense that just traffic alone can generate extra income! !LUV
Thank you! Both views and click generate revenue, obviously clicks generate more though.
Interesting! Well, I thought that was a selling point, but maybe not.
@lerkfrend, you were given LUV from @blockchainyouth. Info: https://peakd.com/@luvshares or check wallet: https://hive-engine.com https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmUptF5k64xBvsQ9B6MjZo1dc2JwvXTWjWJAnyMCtWZxqM
When it comes to a-ads , both views as well as clicks generate revenue but the latter has more weight than former . Meaning we will earn more from clicks than views .
That's a great step not only towards making POB shine but it is also a great step towards Blockchain adaption.
Time when we can buy small to large stuff for Crypto currencies.
One question though , Is is going to be international store?
or only a country specific for now...!!!
That's a good question. I'll have to talk to @thelogicaldude about that to know the answer.
No problem in that 😊✌️.
So that is all up to each of the vendors but as far as the hivelist store overall yes, our fulfillment partners are located in different parts of the world.
The store idea is fantastic.
I work with custom products and even developed a POB Mug for @vempromundo
The only issue would be shipping here from Brazil, some countries are not accepting it because of the pandemic and the biggest problem... The high shipping cost rate from here in my country.
Today around 30 dollars (this is because our currency is devalued)
Not on the list but maybe stick some of the AR/BTC in a CubDefi Kingdom and grow it that way for a while. Then make a decision later on how to distribute it. Who knows there might end up being much more than we are able to imagine. ;)
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That's a very good suggestion . POB is still young so growing the ad-revenue itself in this way will help a lot .
Not a bad idea! I'm all for growing it so that might be a great way to go.
Cool! Maybe at some point there could also be a POB Kingdom/Farm/Den on CubDefi. I am a defi noob so not sure how feasible or worthwhile that might be but it could be another use case for POB.
Ah that would need a lot of liquidity in my opinion . We might need 6-7 more months for that maybe so that a hell lot more tokens are out there in users wallet .
I agree completely. I only mentioned this as an idea for a future use case of POB .
A pob kingdom and pobdefi sounds good to me and would add another use case and added value to #pob
This is also a really good idea!
Smart move, @oldmans.
It's rare but I do that every so often. ;)
There's are fantastic progress updates and I do enjoy enjoy ecency front end. Implementing something like that for PoB would be wonderful.
Getting a use case for PoB would be great also which ensure constant spending and purchasing.
Well done on a wonderful initiative
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In the past I didn't like Ads very much (and even now I don't like them very much), but when they are well chosen and have a real purpose, it's possible to learn a lot good things.
Overall... Nice changes, @proofofbrainio, @leprechaun and the whole team. POB project is getting even better!
P.S.: @hranhuk and @thomashnblum, a POB story will be amazing for you.
I don't like ads too lol but they help the community grow , they help the founder raise money to use it on improving the token . So I am okay with it :)
Yeah! It's like a "necessary evil" or something, haha!
Lol exactly .
Check out the latest post by Patrickulrich , you will see the ad payout for SportsTalkSocial .
Well done! Does it also include a potential app?
I don't think so, but that is definitely going to be needed.
An POB app would be very useful.
Awesome. I like the Ads... I earn a lot with Adsense on my Blogger blogs and Youtube... $100/month.
Nice! Well we need to learn from you. Maybe I need to check out Adsense because right now a-ads is only showing us making about $12 a month!
You can use this calculator to see how much you could be earning with Adsense ... https://www.google.com/adsense/start/#calculator
We definitely need a Proofofbrain.io Youtube Channel.... there are 3 Billion people there waiting to learn about the Proof of Brain platform.... and as soon as you reach 1,000 subscribers you can monetize that with Adsense also ...
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=proofofbrain.io
Thats a great Idea, killing to birds with one stone, bringing in both new users and ad renvenue. I like your way of thinking
I have 9 channels. I'm not sure we need a channel on YouTube, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to use some funds to hire an influencer to post a video on YouTube about proof of brain. For instance, I had a company offer me a couple hundred dollars to do a video on a product for them. It's the same idea. I'll think about doing a video on proofofbrain seems how now I've looked at your search, there are so few people speaking about it...I have one channel where the majority of my views are from college students...that would be a good crowd to entice...
That's amazing :) Is it easy to get access to adsense to these type of Hive front-ends in your opinion ?
Yes. It is very easy. You sign up to Adsense, you get some script / code and add it wherever you want the Ads to appear. And they are highly Contextual ... related to the Content of each post. So you get lots of clicks and lots of $$$$
Hehe no I didn't mean the implementation. I tried to apply for AdSense once upon a Time and it said I needed a blog which was atleast 6 months old or something.
So is there any criteria like that which POB won't be able to pass yet?
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I think POB would pass with flying colours. Especially with the increasing traffic numbers.
Wow there is so much to be done.... "Rewarding users through some type of contest that requires adding value to the community in some way" this will help encourage new user to deliver more valuable content
Waw!!! That's awesome. Achieving all these will be a great development to the community..my little contribution is that you shu reward the Top contributor who distribute Pop to new users. And also, little should be donated to new active users as this we enhance the growth of the community in general...thanks for the great development
Yeah, I think rewarding who are helping to grow the middle class is important.
I think applying pob front end for BAT publisher is a good choice .
Great idea! No reason not to do that!
A store where we can buy things directly from POB. that sounds amazing , i wonder how my parents will feel like when Someday i would tell them that i have bought a xyz thing and price of it was few POB.
I all of these ideas are absolutely brilliant! Seriously good work + I don't mind the ads I think its a brilliant source of income and any and all of the ideas of what you said would be a lovely use case. Maybe keep a bit for yourself for server costs etc?
The beauty of #pob is in its being the most valued tribe token on the leodex or hive-engine. I believe that this fact alone is driving a good amount of users to the platform. Content, engagement, curation rewards, use cases are no doubt important but if the token prices start falling then pob will lose its beauty. Though there are no traffic details available with me, the ad revenues would not be substantial to reward the users for their engagement efforts.
I believe that creating the liquidity in the market to avoid the price fall is essential. So I would recommend that we keep these funds in the contingency reserve and buy the #pob from market when it reaches a certain lower threshold say like 1 hive per pob. I will pray this should never trigger the situation, but whatever POB's are bought only at a certain price levels would then be used to fund future project developments such as pob-fund.
By doing this, if we are able to generate say $12 from ads then it would be just lying in that account. If the price triggers immediately then only 24 POBs would be bought (assuming hive at 0.5), but if say for a year we accumulate these $12 then at the end of year we can buy 288 POBs.
We need risk management strategy to support our price levels too. This fund can be a good beginning.
I would love to see the diesel pool (or multiple diesel pools) for POB. I would even throw 100 BEE in for the cause. Let me know if you want to take me up on that.
I also think buying POB from the market and using it as a reward/award would be useful. Good for the market, good for the community.
Getting hivelist to accept POB and getting a store up and running is awesome. This bodes very well for things moving forward.
One of the comments, talks about an application, this idea is quite good, to take it into account for the not too distant future.
As for the store, it sounds magnificent and the subject of the ads was always annoying for me, even in the videos it is stressful, but in this case it is for a good use and they have not bothered at all, I will give a few clicks and follow your advice not become an impulsive shopper.
Thank you for the leadership exercised in POB, I will think of an idea that I can contribute to this community.
I am a fan of the buy and burn. POB is great because it has such a high reward. I'm not sure why it has managed to keep going up as it has, but at some point it seems supply and demand would cause the price to decline. I also like the store idea and could see myself getting a POB coffee cup or something. Thanks for a GREAT site. The Ecency front end is a winner in my book too. I much prefer that front end due to the features it has.
Invest the ad revenue in the business AKA to grow the POB community. There's always a couple of levers that generate 80%+ of the business (if not more); put the money where the biggest impact lies and keep analysing as we move forward. If you have no data, than start testing. Test all the points / ideas you have listed above. You will not know what works until you have tested them. No assumptions. Let's get the facts and numbers.
Sounds great, for the store I would really like the option to buy gold and silver with shipping to Germany available.
@proofofbrainio
I really don't like ads. But, I know it's necessary and I would do the same.
But, I think adjusting where they appear is the main thing. Because the way it has appeared and the types of ads, will amaze a lot of people. Because now POB has the face of those sites of "advertisements" that where you click opens a pop-up and often with viruses. I'm not saying it's like that here. But the aesthetics got really ugly and if I didn't know the HIVE/POB in question, I wouldn't enter a site like that anymore for the first impression of these ads.
With the Front end of Ecency we will have a lot to gain and setting up a suitable space for the ads will be the best.
When it comes to BTC earnings create a fund for that. And use it to pay developers for projects that create something interesting for the community.
I've been using peakd and hadn't tried recency because I thought it was aimed at phones, but trying out today, and I like it. Unlike pob it's fast, and the design is good.
Good idea but i have one question, the store part using pob to buy things, is it going to be restricted to some persons or general because we are not located in the same place
What happened to the idea of wrapping POB any traction?
Need more POB in my opinion . Lack of liquidity .
It is very intresting to have a store where people can buy things for POB. Maybe keep some latest PlayStation and Pc games to attract the game and blockchain lovers toward the store.
Great updates and nice to see some development around here. Looking forward to seeing the new UI.
Love the idea of a store or enlisting on one, that should be a good use case for POB.
The implementation of ads is also a good way of generating revenue with the traffic we get.
Buying POB and burning will be a great one as it will help the token, the idea of buying ads to increase traffic & users is also cool
Oh my God! Pure beautiful things are pointed out in this publication. I love the store thing and obviously, the user rewards thing...hahahahaha.
I didn't know that POB was created a short time ago and although I know almost nothing about the development of a community and less a front-end, it seems to me that a great job has been done, but I also imagine that there is much to do and I think that all of us who come and go here are eager to help. So: let's do what needs to be done.
I believe that the improvements are for the better, and the good leaders and protagonists of POB will continue to direct the ship on the right track .... I hope to win a BTC with this wheel of luck. Greetings all
I think that the funds, we are not talking about large amounts at the moment, should be used for development. It doesn't make any sense, in my opinion, to use it to distribute POBs to users.
We all want POB to keep growing and so we can use the funds to create a nice merchandising site for example
Just checked the store and it's Awesome! We definitely need more stores where we can shop using coins. This is going to boost the faith of people in crypto (which i believe is still shallow in my country, especially the old generation) and thus give the crypto economy a great boom.
These are brilliant steps forward for the ecosystem. Well done to all involved!
a use case for PoB in which we could use these tokens for buying things online would be terrific! But obviously this involves a lot of networking and organizing. Hope some things can be worked out. Also, I guess this would only apply to US customers?
Buying tokens on Hive-Engine and burning them. Or buying POB for the pob-fund to contribute to more projects and growth. Just some ideas.
Sounds like there are some really awesome things in the works! I have been staking pretty much all of the PoB that I have been earning. I think the first option up there or the burn one are probably the two best. With the token value where it is, I think the top users are doing just fine and they don't need any extra incentive for using the system. That's just my opinion though...
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Monetize traffic is important because most people read the content on hive in general from search engines, but there is no part of hive.
That's why I think second-layer tokens are the future of rewarding. More flexible and it's way easier to generate revenue.
very good ideas. I like all of them!
I don't mind ads especially if the proceeds go to a good cause. I don't know how to turn off my ad blocker tho LOL
Perhaps you could do a monthly poll on what people think the money should go towards?
Ps. Love that you are using the text dividers! :)
@ashleykalila i think that is a very cool idea
I really love the ads aspect of it, with that, the website generate more money. It’s a very good idea. The ads are working already, we can see it.
@akinwumi294 the ads will help the platform to generate income which they can use to keep developing the platform..
heard about the ads feature yesterday and I am pleased with the new development. i also like the idea of buying stuff with pob. that would be really great! finally some use case outside curation.
what to use the ad revenue for?
i am in for burning the token--buying and burning.
i dunno, is it possible to have a development fund here as well. seems too soon?
Great work POB team exciting times. 🧠💪
I vote for a Diesel pool or maybe two. One with #BTC and one with #HIVE.
Sponsoring writing contests sounds great.
Fireguardian is going to leave a big emptiness soon.
On the other hand I would be fine with a solution that rewards every user. Like buying and burning coins.
I'd be curious how much rev is generate from ads. Not all the time but maybe a week after.
My vote first would be to use the ad revenue to full future projects and development of the site.
Besides that if it's not needed it should go back into the token price or to those holding stake. What would be really cool is those holding stake the ad revenue once a week gets divided up to everyone that has powered up POB.
Buying the POB and awarding it to those powered up?
Something along the lines of that feels like a decent incentive and a way to provide value back to those who are vested into the platform.
Don't have all the answers and just some quick ideas.
Some solid improvements an ecency style front end would be cool, its great that its open source and can be easily adopted.
I also think the use case is definitely needed so its great to see that being seriously looked at.
Ad revenue I think you have the right idea, sharing that between rewarding contributors as well as buying outside ads that will bring in new users for growth.
What do you think about referal links for every post, not like D.buzz has done but like read.cash is doing, where you can share any post from any author with an identifiable referal link attached.
Not sure what you could do about incentivicing refers, it could simple be that people signing up become a follower of the referer rather than financially motivated. I think it would encourage #pob promotion.
Either way these are positive steps forwards, I look forward to seeing them implemented.
Thanks for keeping us updated on the progress
I wonder would hooking up with the brave browser be a good idea for the ads.
Their ads are privacy based crypto focused any BAT earned could be swaped for #pob.
Just another possible or added option I guess
I always turn off the adblocker on websites that I want to support and certainly don't mind having non targeted ads on the page.
Regarding the question of what to do with the ad revenue I think the simplest option is also the best option! Just buy and Burn POB. Everyone benefits from it since it shrinks the supply causing an increase the price. PLUS it incentivises holding the token hoping for a price increase which generates even higher prices.
It's a win win situation. A no brainer 🤣
This is a very good idea, I like your level of thinking bringing new user for more revenue. Humm you are brain loaded
nice one we keep learning from u
I think this site need the following ”css style” because whenever the ads is showing at the top of the site, it move to the right hand side where there is a blank space @proofofbrainio
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box-sizing : border-box;
margin: 0;
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max-width : 100% !important;
overflow-x: hidden;
font-size: 100%;
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Great to see you guys using A-ads. I use them too for my small political blogs. I earn more in BTC from A-ads than I do from Adsense on those blogs. On YouTube, I don't have the benefit of being a part of their monetization program (I used to be on it, until they changed their policy). It's great to have alternative sources of income for original content.
I'll be turning off adblockers while using proofofbrain's front-end. Hope you guys perform well!