This blog's primary focus is on Blurt updates, while a portion contains cross-posting and steem history.
If you post on steem or blurt, you may want to read this. When you post on your blog, no rules apply to you since blockchain is decentralized. When you post into a community, that community can mute your post, which is still visible after a click, but curators usually avoid muted posts. Let's compare a community to a Facebook group. For example, if the Facebook group says you can only post a specific type of content; otherwise, we will delete then it's ok for you, but if a community mutes your post, then sometimes it's not justified by you. Similarly, a community can make any rule related to muting your post.
Use strong words, not free-to-use images, off-topic, and sometimes cross-posting.
So why are some communities not ok with cross-posting? It's your content, and you should be able to do whatever you want. Right? Not entirely since if you cross-post, the community can do anything they want. Stopping curation forever, muting, etc. So, it is not the nature of Hive that is censoring you, nor a mute is considered censorship since everybody can still see and upvote it if they want.
Coming back to the topic of steem cross-posting first, maybe you join Hive and don't know anything about steem. I will keep it shorter, and I can tell you a few things. A blockchain war happened, which resulted in the forking/creation of Hive. Many communities still support steem, and projects like tipu and actifit are active on both blockchains and many more. At the same time, some, like splinterlands which were steemmonsters, left steem completely. So when you post into a community and they mute for cross-posting your post on steem, then don't be shocked. Many things happened in blockchain history, and it's your job to read the history of steem if you wish to understand the mentality of different types of people on the Hive.
A further case is when people only cross-post without even changing the text (for example, the article says posted on steem)and are not active on Hive nor care to reply to comments. In this case, even if you post from:
Don't be shocked when people downvote you. Maybe not because of cross-posting since the community allows it but because of you using Hive as a post dumb yard with no engagement on Hive.
Ok, now you might understand there was a fork of steem, a hostile takeover happened (against the decentralisation), and Hive came into existence, proving to everyone that nobody can buy community. Ok, now you might understand the steem case, so let's dig deeper into blurt.
So it is blurt that is bad in my opinion; then why it is related to Hive, you may wonder. The issue of blurt has been around for a while, but it caught my attention when the vyb token launched. So actually, the narrative blurt used for marketing was that web 3 existing social media are bad because they had downvotes, and we don't control them in any way. Blurt means speaking without thinking. Blurt pitched in a way that they are the only saviours against downvotes. What's with vyb? Same not downvotes but 1000 times better and can still counter abuse effectively when needed. VYB never pitches anything like blurt also.
When on blurt, there were no downvotes, and it was not itching me to write. Of course, they created a platform, and who am I to judge. No, wrong. Just focus on the word's meaning, "speak without thinking," and soon blurt became a heaven for abusers. All you can observe on the trending page are news articles translated into different languages to farm votes. Hivers cross-posting on blurt, too, to farm a few more cents. Another case started when blurt was forked by steem. And Hive, too, so all accounts on Hive but their steem account was hacked already had identity theft issues cross-posting on steem. On steem, we can counter the identity theft, but how will you counter identity theft abuse on blurt, no downvote button.
A significant point in the history of blurt is that they started charging a fee to counter abuse.
Was it the best strategy to counter abuse? No. Countering abuse was already proven effective in the Hive. The only reason I hold Hive is that plagiarism is not allowed here. Do you think increasing fees will stop people from plagiarising? Consider it like in an exam; people are cheating. We will not hire teachers or install cameras, but we will increase the examination fee. Any human mind can easily understand increasing the examination fees is not a solution to the cheating problem. But wasn't it about the "Speak without thinking" moto? But now blurt was saying, hi, we charge a fee, so if you are new, you will be crushed by the fee. On the other hand, the Hive is very kind to newbies.
SHIT WATCHERS:
Blurt was about freedom like we were not giving them enough freedom. Hivewatchers were disrespectful, according to people who left Hive and joined blurt. But wait, what's that:
When blurt started, it was all about freedom of speech without downvotes, but now you have a centralized authority that can do anything to account. When I say anything, it means anything. The whole point of blurt was not to become control freaks. Our ex-hivers were spamming blurt is better because according to them we are satanist, control freaks. But we have a central control on blurt now; it's not like they don't have before. Just check the liquidity in blurt. When there is a rug pull, nobody will be there to buy from you.
Did you know who said the most negative things about the Hive and convinced people that it's better on blurt? The investigator hired the FBI for the Hive. I am not sure the FBI listens to him because any person with the right mindset(after digging) will see what's going on.
The promoter of Blurt on Hive says this. Like wow. If he will stop posting satanic blogs, then who will entertain me? I hope we have plenty of clowns (oh just remembered v2k). He writes good fiction.
There is always more to the story, so if you see someone promoting blurt with freedom of speech, moto tells them downvotes are not censorship. In the future, if your blurt account vanished in the thin air, don't think web3 is bad because there are already many red flags about blurt. Here is one more:
I want to tell you everything but will become a never-ending tale. Get your shovel and start digging. But you get the idea why some people downvote comment spam of better on blurt because it's bitter on blurt.
Here is something you should see before buying blurt:
Freedom on blurt........
Exercise your duty to mitigate abuse.
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As you rightly say, you have to understand the history of each of these major social interaction platforms. I love my HIVE Blockchain, I have a group of colleagues and communities that I really enjoy a lot, some of us went from being simple colleagues to being friends and treat each other like family.
I have wanted to join Blurt for a long time but I don't have the time to do it, I know there are people with very good intentions and good projects in Blurt. The same happens to me with Steem, because before being Hiver I was Steemer, but, I no longer have time to create content in Steem and it was forgotten, however and despite the separation, there were good projects and good communities making life in Steem.
There are other platforms like Noisecash, Readcash, Torum, among many others that can also be fun. But they all have their good and bad things.
What I want to say is that there will always be ill-intentioned people who want to harm or take advantage of the system, that happens on all platforms, the best thing we can do is to continue doing things well and enjoy and love what we do, that our work is our cover letter.
I like how you expose the educational way of things, but I recommend you not to spend energy in demonstrating which one is better or worse my friend.
Some people from blurt (Ex-hivers) should also not spam hive with comments "it's better on blurt".
By the way, this post was about understanding why some things are muted or downvoted. I hope I cover it well.
It cannot be said that one platform is evil. All three, however, allow people to share their opinions and talents. If someone says Blurt is bad, Hive is terrible, that's a mistake. Each one is different in its way. The lessons the Watchers/Wardens teach us are far more valuable. People use the goodness of all three platforms to make money off someone else's back. The Watchers/Wardens give us a chance to get to know a person, to see their unique writing and from their strict way, to evolve and be better. Yes, you can earn more in Hive than in Blurt. One can decide which of the three they want to be in.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
The point is blurt was forked with the moto to not become control freaks. They said downvotes and control are bad then why blurtwarden now? Also, remember to blurt freezes amounts as steem did. So, be very careful. You have been warned.
Smiles.. why need police men when the law says you can do anything you want 😅😂
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It is quite glaring, as you have explained, that having a platform where people speak without thinking is bound to be some kind of mishap. And then, for people to assume "quality control" is "taking away freedom" is amateur. It only proves to what extent people can go to just to cut corners to be original and authentic.
And the attempt of raising prices (transaction fees) to stop plagiarism has two effects:
Newbies will find gaining ground quite a hassle and will be very discouraged.
It would further encourage plagiarism. It is more like saying, "Hey, you can only abuse if you are willing to pay a high price for it," which people will openly accept. It's like handing licenses to abusers.
I am glad you shared this because I have now learned more about why cross-posting is not allowed, the importance of engaging other authors, and platforms that are not essentially productive and healthy for the Hive ecosystem.
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Wow! These are tons of drama going on behind the scenes. I have only heard on Steem and how it generally led to Hive creation. But blurt? No. @dlmmqb Thanks for bringing us closer to this history.
For the record, that thing of increasing fees on blurt to counter abuse and all sort was a terrible decision really. Normally, we humans are prone to abuse opportunities that is why checks and balances are necessary in any organization.
But when blurt was forked, the reason of fork was no control then why wardens now? Going against the business model.... very shady
By the way, what does forked mean actually?
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Oh I see....thank you very much..
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I didn't know blurt had such drama going on. I had an account when steem forked but I was one of "those people" who knows that cross posting without citing that you are cross posting is plagiarism.
I logged on to comment and upvote a few times since I had a stake, but never really posted anything there.
Still, I was hoping they did well and grew.
Blurt gave enough red flags to stay away from blurt.
Paying a token to post seems like they lost sight of the entire concept of a free blogging platform that allows you to earn also. How will new users want to adopt this if it costs tokens just to type a short message, is that worth it? I think not myself if I was offered that proposition.
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Also as I said they are going 360 degree to what was written on the white paper or cause of hardfork. It's like saying, police is bad (reason to fork blurt) then one day saying hi meet our police.
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I am active in hive and blurt both platform mostly in hive. My personal judgement is " hive is much better then blurt". Besides the interaction in hive and blurt platform has huge difference (according to my experience) .
I have one question. Suppose i posted a article in hive platform and after that i posted it both blurt and steemit platform . Does it create any impact in my hive account. ?
If the post is in the communities like HL, we will mute your hive post if you cross-post hl-exclusive post. I think ink-well does the same. Also, there are many other communities. It's your post and you can cross-post but it can have an impact if the community you posted in does not allow it. Also if you have zero engagement on hive and you only use hive as a dump yard then some people might downvote too.
This is where I mentioned it:
I will recommend you bookmark it and read it later too for a clear understanding. Also, you can read my replies to comments under the same post for understanding.
Thank you for giving me suggestion and clearing my confusion. I think still i need to learn many thing from the senior in hive platform.
Yes. I am doing it. At least i can share this article to them who don't know about this.
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Really sad to see how Blurt turned out, it's almost clear now that they will not succeed. Clearly hive is the best among the three, not perfect but has done the best job so far. Hopefully hivers keep trying to work on hive so that we get rid of our flaws.
Thank you for your realistic feedback.
I think the best thing we can do is not spread hatred. We must avoid the promotion of hatred between different users and fights. If there are rules, follow the rules and that's it.
Facts is not equal to hate
They will till their account freezes or when they wanna sell there will be no liquidity.
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