Discipline has been a source of bitter complaints since the beginning of time. Even in the Judeo-Christian Bible, there are passages describing youth as lazy, idle, and undisciplined. Another verse encourages parents to discipline their children promptly, even with the "rod," so they do not lose their way.
Both in that era and now, human nature remains the same, and that is something unlikely to change. Therefore, the only "solution" left is to exercise firm discipline with children. Although I did not have children and did not face this issue, I was a daughter and can share some insights on the topic.
From my experience, methods of discipline have evolved over time. In the past, physical punishment was the only tool known for disciplining children, even extending to others' children. It was quite common for teachers or adults to use these methods, even in non-domestic or non-scholarly settings.
The punishments employed, at least the ones I know of, ranged from whipping with different objects to practices bordering on torture—like forcing children to kneel on coarse salt, stand facing the wall for hours, or endure prolonged fasting to "learn their lesson." Today, such practices would be grounds for legal action against the perpetrators in most civilized countries.
Fortunately, disciplines like psychology and pedagogy have introduced other methods of punishment and discipline, shifting from the physical to the psychological and emotional realms. These methods would have been unthinkable for parents from centuries past, but they are now the standard and have been used for a considerable amount of time.
As for the effectiveness of punishments in achieving discipline, I believe this could spark an endless philosophical debate. Different schools of thought within the social sciences related to the topic will undoubtedly have varying perspectives.
In my particular case, as someone born in the 1980s, I can say I experienced a mix of physical and psychological discipline methods. However, I must admit that in my household, my parents resorted to physical punishment so rarely that I could count the occasions on the fingers of one hand.
The type of upbringing and discipline to be employed likely depends fundamentally on the child’s personality. Some, like me, can understand the consequences of their actions through words alone, while others cannot.
This brings me to an important point to consider: the level of understanding of the child. At certain early stages, I believe no type of discipline is valid, as the child lacks the maturity to comprehend right and wrong. Punishing them would simply be a form of domestication, which, from my point of view, is different from true discipline.
I also recognize that, in modern times, many parents lack even a little authority over their children due to not having disciplined them at the right time. I believe this is reflected in society, with some extreme examples where there are too many cases of juvenile and even child criminals.
But that is another topic for debate, one that may have already been discussed or could be interesting to explore further.
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Original Language: Spanish
Translation Service: Microsoft Copilot
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La disciplina ha sido motivo de amargas quejas desde el inicio de los tiempos. Ya en la Biblia judeocristiana hay pasajes en los que se describe a la juventud como indolente, vaga e indisciplinada, y en otro versículo se invita a los padres a disciplinar a los hijos a tiempo, aunque sea con la "vara", para que no pierdan el buen rumbo.
Tanto en aquella época como ahora, la naturaleza humana es la misma, y eso es algo que difícilmente se podrá cambiar. Por eso, la única "solución" que nos queda es ejercer una disciplina firme hacia los hijos. Aunque no tuve hijos y no lidié con este problema, sí fui hija y algo sobre el tema puedo compartir.
Según mi experiencia, los métodos de disciplina han ido evolucionando con el tiempo. Antaño solo se conocía el castigo físico como herramienta para disciplinar a los hijos propios y hasta a los ajenos, ya que era bastante común que profesores o personas adultas usaran estos métodos incluso en situaciones no domésticas ni escolares.
Los castigos utilizados, al menos los que conozco, iban desde azotes con distintos elementos hasta prácticas que rozaban la tortura, como obligar a los niños a arrodillarse sobre sal gruesa, permanecer de pie mirando la pared por horas, o someterlos a ayunos prolongados para que "aprendieran la lección". Hoy en día, estas prácticas serían motivos suficientes para iniciar acciones legales contra quienes las cometieran en la mayoría de los países civilizados.
Afortunadamente, ciencias como la psicología y la pedagogía han propuesto otras formas de castigo y disciplina, que han pasado del plano físico al plano psicológico y emocional. Estos métodos serían considerados impensables para los padres de siglos pasados, pero son los que actualmente se utilizan desde hace tiempo.
Sobre la efectividad de los castigos para lograr la disciplina, creo que este podría ser un debate filosófico interminable, ya que las distintas escuelas de pensamiento de las ciencias sociales relacionadas al tema tendrán cada una perspectivas diferentes.
En mi caso particular, como nacida en la década de los 80, podría decir que me tocó vivir entre métodos de disciplina físicos y psicológicos. Aunque debo admitir que, en mi casa, mis padres recurrieron al castigo físico en tan pocas ocasiones que me sobrarían los dedos de la mano si tuviera que usarlos como ábaco.
Posiblemente, el tipo de crianza y disciplina a ser utilizado dependerá fundamentalmente del carácter de los hijos, ya que algunos, como yo, suelen entender con palabras las consecuencias de sus actos, mientras que otros no.
Esto me lleva a considerar el nivel de entendimiento del niño. En ciertas etapas iniciales, creo que ningún tipo de disciplina es válido, ya que el niño no tiene la madurez suficiente para comprender lo bueno o lo malo, por lo que castigarlo sería una especie de domesticación, algo distinto a la verdadera disciplina desde mi punto de vista.
También debo reconocer que, en los tiempos actuales, muchos padres no tienen ni un poco de autoridad sobre sus hijos, debido a no haberlos disciplinado a tiempo. Creo que esto se refleja en la sociedad, con algunos ejemplos extremos, donde se llega al punto de tener demasiados casos de delincuentes juveniles e incluso infantiles.
Pero ese es otro tema de debate, que tal vez ya se haya tratado con anterioridad, o en caso contrario, podría ser interesante discutirlo.
Desde ya, muchas gracias por tomarse el tiempo de leer esta entrada correspondiente a la semana #hl-w158e1 de la comunidad #HiveLearners.
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You're right,thanks for your reply 😊
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Thanks, I think so, children should be learning with the observation of their parents and the world, and when they are able to understand, using words also.
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