RE: My friends are Covid Positive and I am getting tested Today. IamAliveChallenge#265

[solymi]

Ok so I had PCR tests twice a week over the past three months that means I had 24 PCR tests, according to you 14 of these tests must have been false positive. Not the case, what is the source of your wisdom? Please share :)

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[phusionphil]

I don't think you understand what it means to make a statistical expression.

You can flip a coin, and get heads every time.

There's a 40% chance the rapid PCR test is a false positive result.

What do you understand about that?

[solymi]

Before you said it was a 60% chance so what is nit now? I have been working on a film set with over 40 people over a period of 3 months we did not have one single false positive test! So where is the statistics in that ? Thats 24x40 tests with not a single false positive.

[phusionphil]

What methodology was used to calculate the margin or error?

[solymi]

It was a renown laboratory doing our tests so I think I will trust science before I believe your arguments with no underlining source. Show me statistics on the false positives...

[phusionphil]

Took me a while to find a source with enough documentation, but this Dutch news article covers most of the concerns I have.

Translated to English for this posts discussion,

11-03: € 225,000 reward promise for providing proof of existence SARS-CoV-2 2020:
20-12: Despite 40 WOB requests worldwide, not one authority can provide proof of SARS-CoV-2
17-12: Open letter from Dutch GP to politicians: 'This cabinet has banned science and humanity
12-12: Docu' Covid-19 - The System ':' Documents prove that the media were ordered by the government to sow fear '
30-11: Marion Koopmans acknowledges that PCR test cannot show infection
29-11: Johns Hopkins study: Covid-19 has relatively no effect on normal mortality 19-11: Former committee chair of the Royal College of Physicians calls corona biggest hoax ever
25-10: Dutch experts: False PCR test method is the source of all misery, RIVM wants as many positive results as possible
09-10: Hoax is getting bigger: CDC admits in document not to have a measurable virus
06-10: Trump is right: CDC figures prove that Covid- 19 is much less deadly than flu
09-28: Ex-hoof dad adviser to science pharma giant Pfizer: "Entire second wave is fake, almost all positive tests are false"
03/18: Time for a different sound: Does the corona virus actually exist?
22-08: Dutch molecular analyst: 'There is no second wave, only a data swindle' 17-08: Former director of the Institute of Microbiology: 'No new Covid-19 cases for 8 weeks'
15-08:' The lie is already reigning months - Is the cabinet deliberately misled by the RIVM? '(Column Pierre Capel)
29-05: Lung damage from corona not unique and not worse than during annual flu

taken from,
https://www.xandernieuws.net/algemeen/laboratoria-in-vs-kunnen-in-niet-een-van-1500-positief-getesten-covid-19-vinden/

[solymi]

Thanks I will read through the article I will also check the facts they are mentioning, you will have to give me time though. I am currently still working a movie set and we have all been tested 3 times again since we last talked. Again no false positives. Sound like a statistical miracle...

[solymi]

Also I asked you for a source for your wisdom, and all you do is telling me I do not understand statistics..
What a nice ground to start a discussion on. So where is the source? Where is the scientific paper stating these numbers you are talking about?

[phusionphil]

There's no source for statistics...

You litterally don't understand the expression "false positive" or what that would mean in a dataset.

The source is math.

60% chance of a false positive, means there is a 40% chance it's accurate, and if you have accurate results, you would be considered "lucky" (the mathematical expression of luck, just like in Bitcoin mining Luck is a factor in who gets the blockreward).

I don't have a source for who invented math ratios and statistics, it's common knowledge to me to understand ratios and percentages.

[solymi]

That is just straight up BS you are telling me there so you say that 3 months of testing of 40 PAX crew and no false positive, is a statistical anomaly called luck you have no source to underline your arguments and still telling me through the grapevine that I am too dumb to understand. Show me the statistics you are talking about!