Wow! This really took alot to compile, Great work sir!
The lower ranked players don’t even have a simple competitive motive of measuring their progress.
That is true,
what about category prizes such as
Best u-1800
Best u-1700
Best u-2000
Best female
Then there is no need for best 0ver-2000 as the winner will come from there. Then at least there something worth fighting for everyone.
@stayoutoftherz, @schamangerbert, @chessbrotherspro
Great idea! But which timepoint counts for the rating? At season start, at the end, or an average?
So it's fair, I think you can use the last rating for the players in the previous tournament, that way categories are known already, And sandbagging won't work (For newcomers you can use their average at the end should they play a minimum number of games).
The idea is, not everyone should win a prize, but everyone should be able to fight for one.
The Saturdays tournament is okay as every one wins something.
This is the Saturday tournament by @schamangerbert prize distribution
In conclusion, there can be just estimate of let's say 12 prizes with the top players fighting for (8) and (4) prizes for the special category winners.
Should a player that falls into the rating category finishes 6th. He/she gets the higher of the two prizes.
This way it's more competitive for everyone with higher prizes maybe, And yes. the best players wins both at the top and at the end too.
PS : It is just my suggestion and I would really love any decision and rules set by the tournament organisers. Gens una sumus.
This is also very nice idea, @samostically. And it needs a precise ranking system like mine. As for the question @stayoutoftherz has posed:
I think starting rating should be used as a reference, so the people could see their progress (or anything else 😉) during the tournament.
I agree. Rating after first round is most straightforward. Rating before result of first round is tricky to obtain however.
Either way, Am glad it's something worth considering.
Yeah, maybe it could work. We didn't find a simple solution since this is a prize for the whole league, not for a single tournament and also bc the rating points change constantly, etc. We thought about that :)
Frankly, we have considered all these ideas even just before posting the final rules. Prizes for U-1800, U-2000, U-1500, etc., as well as a prize for the best female player, the best player with an old Hive account, the best player who is also a newcomer to Hive, and so on. We found problems across the board, such as some of the ones you guys brought up. For example, sandbagging, the fact that the ratings are constantly changing throughout the tournament and league, that using the initial rating was not convincing either, that we would need to check the gender of the users, some of whom would prefer to be anonymous, so it might be a bit invasive in terms of privacy, etc. So we decided to pass it up until we could think about it later or even until a situation like this arose where community members were interested in discussing it openly.
Hey! Yeah, we considered these ideas too.