Hahaha yeah I certainly can agree with you on that dude. I think it's a train heading for a cliff and people keep thinking that it's going to turn a corner or something but it's heading straight for the cliff. It's insane how foolish and headstrong this is.
I glanced at his question and was going to respond but wanted to wait a little bit.
It is annoying that people are always looking for something easier and deferring their abilities or obligations to others. I actually have a post drafted about this specific topic, delegating responsibility to someone else and how it's fucking up our society pretty badly right now.
For me and AI - I think one of the two really interesting things that can come out of it if we can get it fully open source and not managed by a bunch of psychopaths - the ability to bridge the communication between humans and animals. This was something that I just learned about a few days ago in a podcast. There are some groups, not sure which universities yet but I'll be researching for a future post, that are working on bridging the communication gap between species. They are likely starting with ones that we know communicate quite well like dolphins, ravens and some other highly intelligent animals. This is going to be a really crazy aspect of the future - imagine talking to someone's dog and them telling you to fuck off? Or their cat saying feed me asshole? LOL.
Secondly - I think it could massively improve farming if we can, on a similar notion, keep it from fuckers who wish to subjugate and kill us. Being able to have region specific AI models for optimal planting, growth and inputting some values into it to determine best things to do, when to do them and all that will be a huge game changer for people in the world. This completely goes against the malthusian fuckery that is infected the richest people in the world with an obsession of eugenics.
People talk about AI as the best thing ever and yet forget the amazing things that were achieved without it. People are just lazy and see it as a way to do things more easily like all those idiots who go about how awesome their artwork is that AI created for them. Eventually humans will have no creativity at all, who needs it, AI will provide.
Talking to animals...let's teach the monkeys to talk, that way the Planet of the Apes scenario might happen sooner. To be honest, I've got no desire to talk to an animal, I don't see the point, but when the apes take over maybe the skill will come in useful.
I'm not at all enthused about AI, I think that's pretty clear.
Yeah for sure, I agree with you there. I think that's part of the human trajectory as strange as it is, but definitely not in the manner that they are trying to push it in right now. Machines of various forms have been invented and proliferated to reduce our labor cost. Unfortunately a LOT of people have no or minimal work ethic, and a LOT of people absolutely hate their jobs and lives so it's ultimately a sad existence, where many are embracing the devil so-to-speak.
If we could get to a Star Trek type future, traveling on space ships and shit, without the psychopathy that would be interesting in a way but I don't know how we get there on the current trajectory. The current trajectory is slavery and subjugation in the present moment. The crazy part is eventually, if it keeps going in the direction it is, it will be subjugation to the AI not even the humans controlling it anymore which is the scariest aspect.
The generative aspect of it is horse shit to me. Yeah I definitely gave it a whirl for 10 images of something but it lost it's interest for me. I am a humanist in that regard for sure, I prefer it created by a person but not just through a few word prompts.
Work ethic, a good work ethic is something that declines as rapidly as good communication; I do not know why. AI, automation, entitlement? Probably all of those and more.
I'm with you on the AI art thing...I don't like it and don't see myself ever liking it, or applauding someone for 'creating' it.
Yeah, I think we do need to make a differentiation between AI/ML (machine learning) and Generative AI. I think AI/ML can be pretty useful in crunching through impossibly massive datasets to find patterns that humans just cannot do quickly enough.
Generative AI is the AI that steals copyright material and hallucinates - and I just can't help but think it's a passing fad (especially as more and more lawsuits come through).
Yeah for sure, generative AI is really not what I'm interested in. AI/ML is more my speed, I just hope it takes a REALLY long time to get to artificial general intelligence.. that is where we are truly fucked. Technocracy is not my idea of a future I want for anyone!
Yeah, personally I think Artificial General Intelligence is a long way off still. None of the AI we have today is anywhere close to "thinking" as far as I know... it's all just different forms of pattern recognition currently.
Let's hope and pray that it stays that way! LOL I think "be careful what you wish for" is something these fucking idiots are NOT taking into consideration.
One of the things that really struck me, someone mentioned that most of the people doing all of this crazy AI shit in an obsession and stupid ass way are people who are childless, and often single. People who have families, futures to think of largely do NOT buy into this shit, at least not without serious restraint and consideration of how it can affect us in the future to such a massively negative standpoint. It definitely seems true, these people have zero responsibility other than to push this shit forward!
Yeah... I'm not super sure how accurate that is.
Elon is pushing AI pretty hard and he has 7 kids. Satya Nadella the CEO of Microsoft is possibly the second biggest player in the AI space after Sam Altman, and he has 3 kids. Sundar Pichai is pushing the InsightAI at the top of Google searches and he has 2 kids. You might be right when talking about the engineers coding and configuring the LLMs but I honestly have no way of working out if that's right or not.
I think the more accurate scenario is that companies are chasing AI hard because of the winner takes all mentality... so Google and Facebook are rushing to beat OpenAI, etc and so the direction and investment is coming straight from the top whether the engineers with families like it or not. They have families to feed so they're probably not going to quit over it.
True, the leaders at the top have kids but the grunts, the engineers, those are the ones who likely don't at least the ones that are living in the hellscape Silicon Valley. It was a bit of a fun thought to have on a biased moment, and I have no idea about the data behind it but it certainly seems like a foolish direction.
The winner takes all mentality is a problem for sure - and feels like a result of the crony corporate capitalism that we've had over the last 40 years or so where people cheered on the Walmarts of the world destroying many others instead of looking for a diverse landscape. Ah I may just be babbling in that regard.. but indeed at the end of the day so many of us have families to feed, protect and house. How can we get out of the cogs of the wheel?! D:
I don't think you're babbling at all. How many livelihoods have Walmart and Amazon destroyed? Thousands definitely, millions probably. The annoying thing is that taxpayers are subsiding Walmart and Amazon in a few different ways; from the no tax that Amazon pays to the incredibly low wages they both pay that forces their employees to need food stamps to all the businesses that got crushed that no longer exist to tax business taxes.
I don't know how to get out of the cogs of the wheel... the more money these massive companies make, the more they can afford to influence policy... and down and down it spirals until we all just riot or die I guess.