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RE: Hive Proposal Costs per Active User

in Hive Proposals3 months ago

Just to clarify my understanding. In the first table, when you say "unique posts" but generalize within the article as "unique users", is it safe to assume that what you did was find the unique posting names and attribute a count of 1 each if they made at least one or more posts in the month?

What I mean is, if you and I were the only two human users, but we made 40 unique posts combined all month long, then you waded through the blocks, found all the posts made in the month total, and then only counted the two actually unique names on them to make these numbers?

So 7,065 is not "unique posts" but rather, "unique posters"? Correct?

Just making sure I understand correctly.

Because coming back after my long sabbatical, I can definitely feel the pulse is much slower than it was when we had double or triple these numbers on the daily a few years ago. And these estimates feel about right based on the amount of fresh content I see as I dig around getting back into things, and the reduced traffic in all the associated discords I visit, once bustling little cities, many, while still alive and in use, seem far more subdued than "once upon a time".

So I was certainly wondering myself, what these numbers looked like, and if some of the ideas I have for upcoming projects have an audience here big enough to even sustain them, make them worthwhile or warrant the effort, time and costs making them would take.

Not that a "small" ecosystem would preclude me from making things, but some of the things I have in mind to create, would not on their own, particularly be an attraction to incentivize brand new people to come and make brand new accounts for themselves, but rather, would mostly extend some new capabilities for users already on the platform.

And having a good estimate of the population like you are striving for here, right on time to match my own musings about such things, would temper my expectations of the speed of my idea's adoption and growth and utility to the community that has chosen to stick around here so far.

Thanks for doing this either way. I'm just mostly wanting to make sure what I'm seeing is unique users and not unique posts as labelled, since those would be some severely disappointing numbers if its actually unique posts.

Thanks Marky.

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I took all the author user names that made a top level post (not a comment) in a month and then did a unique so each username was counted once.

I have no way of knowing if someone used three different accounts to make three different posts, and I know there are many who do this. But at the same time, I also know many users of Splinterlands don't post and only play the game, so without knowing how much of each, I just hope they balance out to be roughly the same. Either way, it's just an estimate based on the best viable metric.

Yup, got it, unique-ing the array is the way.

Based on "feel" and years of experience here watching, I think I would have flat out guessed numbers only slightly lower than yours, I was just telling somebody my guess was about 3K logging in a day, when it used to ~feel~ more like 30K in the heyday.

And I didn't take into account the gamers. I don't think about them much. From my perspective I suppose they are using wallets and making blocks with their play and transactions so they keep the chain and currency alive to a degree, but somehow that feels separate from what makes this place the special place that it is for all the other dApps and interfaces and communities. Sort of like they don't even really have to know we exist to just play the game, and in turn don't do much participating in governance or proposal selection or things like that. Pros and cons to that. Not the point of my query. Just an aside.

Again, thanks for the data. Right on time for me, my dude.

And I didn't take into account the gamers.

I know Splinterlands has a lot of users that only play Splinterlands. I could probably do some fancy tests on unique custom json operations without top level posts to even further refine it. I did check custom jsons and the numbers are off the charts. 27K for posting auth, and 119K for active auth in just the last 30 days. There are so many bots it's just throwing a dart at that point.

I responded on bitcoinfloods comment, your follower count broke my tool, you big celebrity you. Now I gotta fix that and add pagination to my results screen. :D Thanks for that QA test on 14K followers. :P

I am not under any illusions I have 13K+ followers.

Haha, well, since you break my tool with your ... large payload. (gross)

I can tell you that subjective and anecdotal experiments show about a 10% "true" average, with a wildly wide "more or less" attached to that of course.

So its likely you do have at least 1300 or more. If that is any consolation :)