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Michelle Obama has also shared her insights into their marriage, emphasizing her gratitude for their partnership. In a 2018 conversation with Jay Shetty, she reflected on the challenges they faced, especially during Barack's presidential campaigns. She noted that despite the turmoil and transitions, she would not trade their marriage for anything. Michelle conveyed a profound understanding that although their journey had its ups and downs, the joys and positive experiences far outweighed the difficulties. She poignantly remarked, "If we hadn't hung in there, we would have missed all the good."