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One of the highlights of the conversation was how Johnson played a pivotal role in reshaping the league's attitude toward celebrations. Goodell noted the shift away from the restrictive "no fun" ethos that previously permeated the league, highlighting a collective desire to foster an environment of enjoyment. "It took a while to sort of get that through," he confessed, acknowledging the challenges of evolving traditional views on what constitutes sportsmanship in football.