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The interlocutor shifted the discussion to Luke 15, where Jesus narrates that there is joy in heaven over one sinner who repents. This joy suggests a level of awareness among the saints in heaven about spiritual matters on earth. It further reinforces the argument that just because an individual may not be omnipresent or omniscient doesn't limit God's ability to enable communication and awareness.
In juxtaposing these teachings, the interlocutor adeptly guided Jonathan to recognize that many assumptions about the incapacity of Mary and the saints to intercede can be challenged by a closer reading of scripture.