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Living together in the city, they were enveloped in a culture and landscape that stood in stark contrast to their earlier experiences. The artist recalled Berlin’s vibe as reminiscent of America in the late 40s and early 50s, imbued with a sense of history and groundedness that felt both foreign and familiar. "There was a wall that kept all the bad things out," he observed, highlighting how the geographical and political divisions allowed for an oasis of creativity—an escape from the chaos they had previously embraced.