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The conversation swiftly shifted to the ongoing situation in Ukraine. Pompeo offered insights into former President Trump’s strategic approach toward the conflict. He suggested that Trump's inclination to avoid antagonizing Putin aimed to pave the way for potential ceasefire discussions. Pompeo agreed that while Putin, an "evil" leader, does not care for human casualties, he would be interested in saving face.
Pompeo emphasized the importance of ensuring that any negotiation does not reward Putin's aggressive behavior. Notably, he expressed confidence in an eventual ceasefire, though he acknowledged Putin's reluctance to concede. He outlined the necessity of engaging in post-war reconstruction, suggesting that economic integration in the future could be part of a diplomatic solution.