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In fact, it has been suggested that Kirk's engagement ultimately exposes Newsom as a "synthetic fraud," as he struggles to gain traction with his party base. Kirk himself articulated that while he saw the discussion as a valuable opportunity to challenge Newsom's positions and engage a vast audience, he also recognized that this engagement could backfire on Newsom, diminishing his hopes for a presidential run.
The Value of Dialogue
Kirk defended the decision to engage, citing the substantial viewership that the podcast garnered, which included a diverse array of audience members who may not be typically politically active. He maintained that the exposure was beneficial, allowing for the presentation of conservative ideas against the backdrop of Newsom’s policies and rhetoric.