Haha! Did you take some mushrooms before writing this? Yep, I’ve experienced the Facebook group mentality first hand and it one of the main reasons I ended up here. Steemit claimed to be censorship free and a place for everyone to voice their opinions. I think the way this has turned out not to be the case is why people are feeling disenfranchised. I feel for the likes of kenny and urasoul. Yes, they might be attacking hive now but that’s not what they are about and their actions come after much provocation. If we’re going to bash people for their behaviour that must go both ways. I would much rather they didn’t attack hive and instead return to what they were doing before all this started, but how can they do that if what they were doing is now a punishable offence?
Moving on…
So you say the viewpoint does not exist to piss off the other team, but to educate. Unfortunately, in order to 'educate', you'd need students from the other classroom. But they're nowhere in sight. Too busy in their neighborhoods, talking to each other, and nobody else.
This is a fair point and you’re probably right 99.5% of the time. Nonetheless, there are still those out there who have not chosen a side and if hive only promotes one form of education then it’s no better than a controlled platform such as Facebook. I mean who needs clever algorithms when you have whales directing the plays? I remember when I found alt media/news and I’m very thankful to have discovered it. The same goes for steem/steemit/hive. It’s just a shame that people could be put off joining hive due to what’s happening right now(and that goes for people sharing the views of either or neither of the people in this dispute).
There is one way this could all end well…
Why yes, I did take some before, several times, but none recently. Still experiencing side effects perhaps? LOL!
Kenny and Urasoul claim it's censored, then the social circle followers believe it and repeat it, yet here we are, talking about whatever we want, however we want to say it. I question that narrative. Others believing it do not, and can't see the forest for the trees it seems. They want everyone to be afraid to talk. They're the only ones saying it. Everyone else is fine.
"Punishable offense" would be propaganda. Not fact. I see others freely speaking. Challenging a message isn't punishment. Only one feeling like everyone should be agreeing with them would feel punished. People challenge my words sometimes. I don't feel punished.
Choosing a side isn't necessary. Only those on either side would think it is.
Claiming people will be turned away from this platform due to this particular situation is rather self-centered. But I realize it's part of the groupthink. Not all groups think the same. This platform also attracts many who don't fall into any groups and enjoy independent minds. Not many platforms have those people. They're silenced in all the noise coming from the 'sides'.
And you're right about the handshake. But that's not the direction some chose. Once one chooses their path, it's often hard for them to turn around. That's life.
Fucking hell! You still rambling on? 🤣 In that case I’ll carry on too…
Now I certainly want some of what you’re smoking!😉 Hive advertises itself as somewhere to earn for the content you provide, does it not? Therefore it’s quite fair to say people might be put off when they realise that the advertisement doesn’t live up to its name. I also wonder how your perspective would stack up if, for instance, the haveyoubeenhere community were targeted in the same way? I’m guessing anyone looking to write and earn from travel blogging would be put off from coming here. And that’s not me being self-centered, nor is it any form of group-think, that’s just common sense. Because why would anyone stay in a place where they’re made to feel unwelcome by the most influential of profiles, or where they are treated differently to everyone else(in the way of rewards I mean)?
Also, challenging a message is what we are doing now with each other. We are not going on to downvote one another’s posts out of spite, we are being adults and having a conversation. If someone is challenged they get a fair chance to defend themselves but when someone is punished via a silent dv they’re not given that same opportunity.
Lol. Yes, like mindless zombies we all obey and think the same. They’re not the first to question this behaviour you know… Quite patronising if I’m honest, but I guess I could say the same about you now you’ve trotted out the mantra; “you’re not censored because you’re still free to say whatever you like”. Next you’ll be telling me to go build a second layer token if I don’t like the way things are run around here.
Ramble over.
So much for that handshake.
Hive advertises itself several different ways. It's not based about one group's ideology. Hive can advertise itself as a gaming platform if it wanted, but that wouldn't be accurate. Only skims the surface. Hive doesn't technically advertise itself as any one thing. If a group says it's supposed to be about something, that's not Hive saying it.
Hive could advertise itself as a place where consumers earn. Multifaceted.
The decentralized nature of Hive means Hive doesn't need to advertise itself as anything. The projects on Hive can advertise themselves as what they are and what they represent.
So if a project wants to market itself as a free speech platform, that project can't expect all the other projects to hold the same values. Hive is the base or foundation. Things are built on top.
There's no 'one way' to do things here. If people want control and demand all things be one way, there will be, by default, conflict.
I'm not on drugs.
You're free to build upon Hive whatever you see fit and nobody is stopping you. If pointing out that freedom exists only makes me a mindless zombie, then I guess I'll just go drool on something.
The opportunities exist only because of the problems from the past. If people would rather ignore the opportunities and live in the past, so be it, but their struggles in life and the things they complain about are their own problem. Solutions are available. That should not be mocked or frowned upon because, like I said, they only exist today because of the fuck up from the past. If people do not want to accept progress, that is on them and nobody else. If people are not willing to embrace change, that's not my problem. It's theirs.
If you want to mock me for pointing that out, so be it. If I'm supposed to fear being ridiculed for pointing that out because one social circle doesn't approve of that message, that social circle needs to look itself in the mirror and ask itself what it truly wants. It's not my problem and I don't fear control freaks. If one doesn't like how things are run, but ignore the options available, then continue to complain. It's not a solution one wants, it's control.
Something to think about: If I went to VYB and began demanding downvotes be reinstated, and wrote a constant smear campaign, daily. How far would I get? How foolish would I look? Don't answer. Just think.
If people want to chisel away at the foundation that holds a project like VYB up for intance, because they like what VYB stands for, that's called: Being fucktarded. If the only way they can get attention to their next new free speech platform representing 'truth' is to chisel away at the foundation holding it up and fracture the potential market into pieces, that's not only being fucktarded but it's setting the stage for failure. Like I said these are not professionals.
Ah mate, don’t take it personally I’m just having some banter with you. I guess that’s the problem having these chats through text. Anyway, it sounds like we’ll have to agree to disagree. Nonetheless, it’s been an interesting chat and I’m sure we’ll have another one in the future. In the end we both want a successful platform so at least that’s something we can agree upon.
Didn't take it personally at all. Just talking.
Good stuff. I was about to send you some tampons 🤣
That would have been a nice gesture.