Eh I don't believe in that. I don't believe it shouldn't be talked about and adjusted because guess what we were in the bear market when HBD APR was changed in the first place. Did it benefit hive? To me it doesn't look like it and just exited even more cash flow OUT of hive. I could be wrong on that but it's the feeling I get unless someone can show me some charts to really show what's happening.
I guess the number that's really missing that I can't find is how much HBD there is in market cap total and combine the two Hive and HBD. Has the market cap increased in a year or has it fallen since the 20% APR?
Yes, reducing by 12% doesn't sound like a lot but it's 1% per month. it adds up.
Can you show me the exit flow of HBD interest to Hive and then cashed out?
That data is going to show you better than anything else over speculation and feels like what's missing at the moment to make any real educated talks about it.
Incorrect... I think... now I need to look it up.
It had to have been implemented in 2021 pretty sure.
The entire point of 20% was competing with stables like UST.
https://peakd.com/@edicted/20-interest-rate-on-hbd
Wrote that post in April 2022 right before shit hit the fan.
Hive was still trading at around $1.
So the timing is... interesting.
In any case @dalz has all this information organized into nice charts and things.
It very clearly shows that a high demand for HBD can easily make Hive go completely deflationary and results in net-negative inflation as Hive is destroyed to mint more HBD. The question then becomes okay if we keep printing 20% yields how much demand does that give HBD vs how much do those yields get dumped out to Hive. It's all guesswork, but a lot of the people saying we should reduce yields don't even consider this math or even attempt to calculate or guess at it because "printing money is bad".
https://peakd.com/@dalz/exploring-the-sustainability-of-the-hbd-interest-rate-in-the-hive-ecosystem-or-realized-and-projected-inflation-from-hbd
So yes, easily easily easily HBD can sustain 20% yields if the demand outstrips the supply. 20% yield gives HBD more demand. There are many other reasons to hold HBD as well, with even more projects being built that will certainly use it. The cost of 20% with the current 7.5% debt ratio results in the Hive network only having to pay 1.5% of the Hive market cap to sustain 20% yields on HBD. Is HBD worth 1.5% a year to the Hive network. I would say this is obviously the case. Things could change if the debt ratio goes higher, but for now it's fine, and there is a hardcap at 30% haircut.
This should genuinely be looked at when considering HBD APR. https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@lordbutterfly/re-bitcoinflood-rzywcu
But lets see what he has to say. Maybe he responds.
@lazy-panda would you please share your thoughts if the high HBD APR was a factor in you choosing to place your capital into Hive? What do you think about the witnesses discussing a reduction in HBD APR and how would that affect your future actions. Would it? Do you think we can attract more investors from, Steem for example, by maintaining the high APR?
as the debt ratio is still under 10%, it will be definitely wrong decision if APR is cut down by 8% or more...
Appendix : Not only from Steemit, but, I guess a lot of investors and traders from different platforms will attract to Highers APR of HBD staking.
Maybe if we could prove the APR is indeed bringing in investors, or some ideas were shared on how we could do it more effectively, it could sway decisions towards maintaining it.
I def dont believe it should drop anywhere near 8% if indeed any APR drop actually happens. Right now we are solid at 20% based on witness feeds.
In fact my recollection is that neither GTG nor Ausbitbank mentioned any of this at all, but instead said it made Hive 'look bad', which is why they were reducing the rate.
https://peakd.com/@lazy-panda/wallet
Check the wallet and incoming Hive and HBD in savings. How it flowed.
Acid proposed this was a known STEEM account putting capital into Hive.
Imagine if we could take more of their whales investment.
Imagine if he sells off his HBD, we lose peg, conversion and dump of Hive commences.
Must be a different username over on steem but yeah that would be nice there's so much junk money floating around on steem and Tron it's pretty ridiculous.
When Hive was created the Steem usernames were simply ported to Hive. If that account originated on Steem, it's the same username.
Why i want to ai post the shit out of it extract as much as i can bring it back to hive and power up use my vote here to support the projects i am in and that would help if i could say do that on many similar sites extracting form them and pushing value to hive using thousands of posts made using AI on those sites and posting my own content here that would be used as the basis for the posts on the various other sites i found.
https://peakd.com/hive-133987/@arcange/hive-finance-20230824-en
Liquid HBD seems to be getting smaller and smaller, while the HBD in savings is increasing. I believe you have what you are looking for in arcange's post.