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and where do you think that money/value for hive comes from or for LEO it isn't just made out of thin air. Also the cost to run a site like InLeo or hive etc the front ends have server costs, development costs etc.

Hive/Leo get their value from the market, just like Bitcoin does. As people buy or sell the token, its value changes.

Yes I understand there are costs involved, I thought that's why the decentralized hive fund (DHF) exists.

I'd love to believe that but I don't mainly because LEO and Hive don't have direct access to Fiat currency as Bitcoin does.