Can you imagine how many community organizers like Kenny has come and gone that has experienced what Kenny is pointing out here. If we are going push away legitimate content creators with decentralized pro crypto viewpoints with large audiences and extremely well connected to other very successful content creators with large audiences as well then what are we doing utilizing Hive as a social media if it will discourage people from using or investing in Hive?
We need content creators with decentralized views points and content on a decentralized chain right? Is this centralized like Steem or what?
I'm definitely over on-boarding people to this place; and I'm looking to make a strategic exit now, like so many other truthers who had a lot of stake in steem/hive, before it became obvious that we lost this battle.
My content is Hive-exclusive, has been since I joined Steem in 2016.
I have onboarded hundreds of users, including giving dozens of hours-long classes to groups, giving years-long 1-on-1 guidance to all the friends who have stuck with it, promoting on all the other platforms and at events all year every year.
Just to have this place descend further and further, to where I'm rooting for the idea of just deleting the social media aspect at this point - if they're going to rape the rewards pool and downvote most of the good content anyway, let's just go 100% defi and give up the experiment.
This antagonistic psycho-manipulative behaviour is kind of what is intended in my view and the result that they want is exactly what you mention you might do here.
The very fabric of the free internet is being threatened at the moment. A popular video has been thrown around regarding the EU censoring entire non mainstream domains at a domain level. Source
Hive - for better or worse, may actually survive this censorship due to its versatility and the nature of the blockchain.
Hive, in the state of decreptitude that it is may yet be a single last bastion of truth - as patriotic and corny as that sounds.
Keep fighting I say. Keep posting and take it in your stride. If we can't take a little fight on the way - we were dead in the water when we began.
There is a new important user recently introduced by @brianoflondon - @normanfenton - in his own words - "I am a Professor of Risk Information Management at Queen Mary University of London and a Director of Agena, a company that specialises in risk management for critical systems. I’m a mathematician by training with current focus on critical decision-making and, in particular, on quantifying uncertainty using causal, probabilistic models that combine data and knowledge (Bayesian networks). The approach can be summarized as 'smart data rather than big data'. Applications include law and forensics (I've been an expert witness in major criminal and civil cases), health, security, software reliability, transport safety and reliability, finance, and football prediction." Source
Find his latest post illuminating the disinformation and ignorance surrounding Ivermectin in the mainstream here - https://peakd.com/hive-163521/@normanfenton/another-story-of-academic-corruption-relating-to-covid-data
If people like @normanfenton can find a place here and still make it through the network of bullying and coercion on this platform - there is still hope!
What if your decision to stay on here and continue regardless of these setbacks actually sets a precedent for others to do the same to create and bolster a strong community that flourishes and survives through any hardship?
Excellent comment. I intend to explore avenues to counter a centralisation of wealth and stake by malicious downvoting whales but am so time poor.
Absolutely stunned to see Norman Fenton on here. I stumbled upon his latest videos and podcast uploaded on anchor.fm yesterday. He speaks my language and reminded me of all the questions i posited when this all started but neglected to answer due to the traumas and pressures of daily existence piling up.
Freedom of speech and censorship has never been at risk on Hive, these nutjobs are just annoyed they can't use stake that has been trusted upon them to constantly use it in their favor and keep referring to censorship when other stakeholders feel they don't deserve as much rewards from the daily rewardpool. It's all about the rewards, always has been. They'll cry about how badly stake is distributed even though there's valid proof it's one of the best distributed currencies on the internet and then they'll cry how other whales have managed to buy up a lot of coins while they have sold most even though they've been milking it for years. Not that I'm someone who hasn't been selling but at least I don't cry when someone takes some of my candy away.
I've been fighting on this blockchain since 2016, full time on-boarding, promoting, teaching, curating, organizing, commenting, posting.
I've been through various waves of whale wars and flag wars, I had to explain what happened to Berwick when ol' BS downvoted him for a few hundred bucks (while he was making thousands per post)
I've watched most of the freedom movement either ignore Hive, call it a CIA operation (thanks Whitney!), just copy-paste here and withdraw their earnings, or give up on it already.
When this place launched (as steem) it was already a bit of a shit-show, but most of the whales were anarchists, and if people had come here instead of sticking with FB & Twitter (and more of the big names here had interacted & re-invested instead of draining the economy) - we'd have control of this chain now, and the statist folks doing all the downvoting would not have been able to stack so much cheap coin.
At this point, it would take something like $20 million or more to get the freedom movement back on par with those whales down-voting it.
It's a nice idea, but like I said...
We've already gone through this rodeo multiple times. Some of the actors change, but the game stays the same - only with a wider and wider gap in the stake on the opposing sides (and not tilting in the favor of free speech and liberty.)
I empathize with your experience on these platforms and I say there is definitely a time to walk away and have a break.
Maybe this is not the end - it's just a time you need to recharge.
I am grateful for your work and your strength!
If you and others like your weren't fighting to make Hive into what it is now, there would be no deep community on here that has developed a fuck tonne of resilience!
And by fuck, resilience is what we need at the moment.
Please have a break and reconsider at a later date!
I don’t think thars the answer anyway maybe David icke joins and powers up 20 million then an even richer guy like kim jong Un joins and flags all his posts etc. At the end of the day no amount of money will change a system. Something has to be done to the platform itself or people themselves have to change.
Fighting?
Fighting what? Your shadow? :)
Fighting in the general sense of struggle, putting in energy and time... putting in untold hours learning about it, teaching about it, promoting it to thousands (actual in person hands-on promotion), researching, creating, and...
Fighting against folks with too big an ego, some stake to throw around, and no sense of common decency, fair play, or honest discourse - in this case usually through helping bring to light their activities and intentions, through posts like this, and through reaching out to individuals to ask them to remove their support from projects like curangel, behind these attempts at censorship & fiscal warfare.
Anytime tribe touched a post it either feed someone in another country or it inspired others to continue creating good content. When it felt like my efforts to engage with with the community of Hive was all for not after writing a post that took me days to write and study info on just to be slandered and verbally attacked by someone who, yes this will trigger him but, I still see as a brother hurt.
But then to see a community approved account that is supposed to protect the chain like a @hivewatchers moderator decides instead to jump in on the action by DMing me and telling me that Threats of violence and overall hostile attacks on your character and physical person is 100% ok and stop upvoting comments was so confusing and isolating. Mind you it wasn't even me that was calling them. I was telling people to stand down.
But then here comes Kenny with delegated Hive power that I had I never thought I would had ever received and on two accounts. I did not even know him. Just dude came in made feel like I was apart of the team and more important a valuable member of the Hive community.
Kenny has helped me keep a really strong positive perspective on Hive even when my outlook is as bearish. Kenny has been fighting the good fight. He is onboarding a lot of people and has really really cared for our community.
@kennyskitchen since I've only started really becoming involved in Hive very recently, I'm very unfamiliar with the politics and the general experience. I'm sure you have very valid reasons for wanting to leave, but I would also encourage you to think about sticking around to help come up with solutions. These are such early days of blockchain still, and we're still all very much involved in an experiment and working out all the bugs. As an Abraham-Hicks student, I'm sure you're familiar with the concept of contrast. 🙂 You're an integral part of this system. You have a ton of influence. Your experience will be very beneficial to the future, and I think your experiences and knowledge of this space and blockchain will prove extremely beneficial for all. There are always solutions. And I know you're a cooperative component for the many who are counting on the future of blockchain. What you've experienced is only giving us an example of how control can be taken over blockchains which gives us an opportunity to come up with solutions. The more this happens, the more we can work the bugs out to stop this from happening for mass adoption. The way this is working is probably the same way it happens in all arms of society. And when we figure it out here we create a model.
I do not want to speak for Kenny but I have a feeling he will change his mind after a night of sleep... maybe two. Such large downvotes can be like stepping on a nail, which will lead to some discomfort. I say this because he loves Hive too much. The community is showing support with engagement here and surly this will help him readjust to a more positive mindset like he usually has towards Hive.
I'm good on Hive, I've started all delegation removals & power-downs, to liquidate as much as possible during this next bull run.
I'll stick to Odysee-only videos now, and will probably just stay away from more time-intensive research papers and such... If I make any more content at all.
Really, I've been done with social media, and especially Hive, for a LONG time, I just stuck around because I've had this opportunity/responsibility to distribute thousands of dollars a week in rewards.
I'm over that. They're canceling out most of the content I've been here to support, most of the movement has already left (or never came here) and it's quite obvious that they (the pro-state anti-truthers) have long since won the war for steem/hive.
I am trying to prevent someone like from leaving Hive with this proposal. Please reconsider until we see what kind of momentum we get from this proposal. Otherwise if you want I can sell ya my cards for 10k worth of hive. Was trying to get rid of them for 12k in order to get more delegated hive power and a parcel in the metaverse. You sold me on Hive when I was not stoked on it due to these issues I saw happening to people like you. https://peakmonsters.com/@dynamicgreentk/cards
What a delusional world you must be living in.
The solution would be to fork away and having a platform where voting stake is totally separate from $$, and where the members actually have some level of shared values - I've tried pushing for that for years; no sign of it anywhere down the road.
I'm done wasting time on a cess-pool of the old system with a slightly newer paint job.
Hive is the best social media platform out there... and social media is the scourge of humanity. I can't justify supporting or feeding into this place any more.
This is the sole reason I have never invested personal money into hive. If there was no down voting it would be a no-brainer to move almost all my Crypto here.
Can you not see the wood for the trees? People see you as posting 5 times a day, and immediately taking the rewards out to Bittrex (because HIVE is above $1.50 per). If you had some stake here instead of this 'take-take' mentality, then you would get accepted more.
There is nothing wrong with your content, it's the behaviour you exhibit and then all the moaning after some DV's have hit you. If it's so bad here, you have the option to use STEEM and/or BLURT and get out.
I use my hive to trade and live off and keep the 50 percent as stake. The guy down voting me is on a constant power down. I only powered down to be able to try and trade with some whilst hive is high so I can put more back in.
Not everyone can afford to keep their full stake in a platform. Having said that I have always kept 50 in and cashed out the 50 percent unless I really needed access to it, covid was not kind to freelancers. The platform was even designed in that way to be an income stream and a holding stake in a Platform simultaneously else it wouldn’t be split like that. Those who can power up 100 percent and don’t need to access any money good for them! But everyone is going to power down at some point. Some p just think everyone should do the same as they do. I acknowledge everyone has different periods in their life, different set ups, different ideas.
I also care about other people and see people trashed down to zero for an opinion people don’t like. For them that big payout that then gets taken away could push them over the edge if that’s what was going to save them that month from homelessness. I curate a hell of a lot of artists and spend hours and hours doing it. You make tons on here and if you can afford to power up all the time and don’t need to access any of it then good for you! That’s awesome. But one day you will take yours out. It’s better leaving it in who doesn’t want to make more money. But one day you too will decide to take some money out and do something with it. Or you will need it for an unexpected bill, or a period of redundancy who knows.
Yes I do well here. Do you think I did so well when we met in March 2018 at Birmingham (SteemCamp 1). At that time, I was the noddy getting 3c per post then. It seems one of us did the right thing, and the other did not. I don't ask or beg for these votes.. they just appear. I'm not going to continue this as we are never going to agree.
I do not believe one did the wrong thing and one did the right thing. I don't believe investing money in materials and using it to live off makes you a worse person than someone who powers up for a few years then takes the money out later. If people see that as unworthy of reward I guess thats up to them. This place is full of unique people full of differing life circumstances that change all the time. As long as you do what you feel is right that should be all that matters.
I have no problem with you making money from posts, good for you I say, I am not the one judging them or down voting them or analysing how much of them you invest or use for your day to day life. Good for you I say for putting in the time and effort to build connections. I am happy for you.
That is so funny because my buddy just came in my room and said he was watching some random bitchute video and the guy he was watching was praising your name for onboarding him to hive and blockchain tech. I didn't see the video but was like man if only people like @theycallmedan or any other people looking to onboard notable people to their projects like @threespeak or @peerplays that you may have connections to key influencers Luke or Dbroze etc that you are the most valuable on boarder in that regards. I do hope you start to change your mind a bit and maybe reblog my proposal at least in the off chance the community furthers supports in in order to keep you and others around while improving our relationship with large stake holders.
https://wallet.hive.blog/proposals
Hey Bruv! I'm forced to agree with most of this comment from my own perspective.
I'd like to go a little further with HIVE than you so I cannot abandon My cause... YET...
I'd love to bring you up to speed on opportunities in my land IF you're up for it.
Lots has happened since meeting You and your tribe in 2015 in Denver...
I'd HOPE you would see this as opportunity.
I'm camping around but would like to meet up and see if you're interested in Signing some Documents I've been working on... it's exciting stuff. If you're just down for a talk to get some perspective then you and I should have a conversation. I use Matrix:Element
Otherwise, BLURT is everything you need, MINUS Nerds who just NinjaMined their Stake and ACT like THAT matters more.